@mrstickball 

first of, your right with big IPs staying where they are for now, but the Wii is getting a piece of the cake as well, not as much but some, but Nintendo has its own Monster IPs for leveling the playfield, (I just hope they bring pilotwings back) and yes casual gamers will lose interest, but not all of them, some might just ceep gaming others might come back whenever something interesting appears, some people tend to think that there is a fixed date when all casuals lose interest, I personally think there will be little waves of casuals comming and going, I do agree that this will not expand and just stay that way at its high point, but I do see the casual market as here to stay, and many casuals will get interested in other games so its a good think for all gamers not a bad one.

The one big thing Nintendo has going is the casuals - price correlation, if you only play party or karaoke type games with your friends once and a while (I´m trying not to put the girls in a corner here, lots of guys play those as well) you just need a price close to $200, thats why I don´t see Nintendo dropping of in 08, if sales go down all they have to do is put the price down to $200 and pack it with one or two games, maybe even Wii fit and/or an extra controller, then people will have no way to resist.

I think it is too early to claim that big franchises haven't switched to the Wii and that they will not switch in the future ...

The fact is that it takes 18 to 24 months to produce a big budget Wii (PS2/XBox/Gamecube) game and up to 24 to 36 months to produce a big budget PS3/XBox 360 game. We already know that most publishers did not see the appeal of the Wii before E3 2006 and expected the PS3 to be dominant again (thus their big IP developers were working on PS3 projects).

As teams complete major PS2, PS3, and XBox 360 games they will become available and possibly switch to Wii development; we don't know but the developers of games like Gundam Musou may have already switched to Wii development and be working on games that will be announced at TGS or E3 2008.

So you have played WiiFit? What was boring good? (if you haven't mayby you should shut up about the fun part of WiiFit, when it is out and you have played it or read some reviews you are more than welcome).

Other than that there is now two threads that has talked about how many core games Nintendo is pushing, on that Wii owners gets some nice love from Ubi (Nitrobike), Capcom and Sega. I can agree that the 3rd party hasn't given Wii tons of nice games but to say that it is impossible to find hardcore games is ridiculus. But I have seen you put your head in the sand and refuse to listen to what we Nintendo fans belive more than one time, so I guess you wont answer this either. 

So what does the Nintendo fans get this year (in USA)?

BWII, Super Mario Strikers, Fire Emblem, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime and SSBB. If you are a Nintendo  fan that is exactly what you want to have. Next year we know about Mario Kart Wii and that they are making a game for that shell zapper.

3rd parties?

RE:UC, Zack, Nights, Nitrobike, Space Station Tycoon, Dewy that is from my head. I know that Sega is coming with more games than just Nights.

So mayby we should quit this "Wii is not for hardcore gamers". Because it IS and we Nintendo fans like what we see. Just because that you doesn't like the games it doesn't mean that other core gamers might. 

I'm sorry, mrstickball, but you're wrong. The casuals never went away; or, to be more accurate, the ones that left were replaced by new ones. Yes, SNES sales were lower than NES ones, but that's because half of the casual market switched over to the Genesis/Megadrive in the fourth generation. Instead of Mario and Duck Hunt, the new casual games were Sonic, Mortal Kombat and the first versions of Madden. SNES and Genesis sales combined were substantially higher than NES sales, close to 80 million together. In the next generation after that, most of the casual fans were on the Playstation, then on the PS2.

The gaming market is only going to get bigger from the Wii, not shrink. I'm just not following your logic on this one. 

What I find funny is that there are people on here that don't even own a Wii and are not planning on getting a Wii and are so concerned about its future line up. Don't worry, their line up is going to be fine. It won't affect MGS4's or FFXIII's release. Square Enix is not going to say "Oh shit, we are missing the casual boat, lets dump this lame FFXIII project we've been working on for years and make a Wii Sports clone!!!"