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Byron York the article isn't online in full but this is his blog:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OGY5ODU3N2VkNDY4OGIzYWYyYjVlYWFhZDViZmU2OWI=

BTW, it was completely irresponsible and stupid of CNN to stop reading at the first sentence. Idiots all over the media.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

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I just got off a conference call held by the McCain campaign to deny that Al Qaeda, contrary to reports in the AP and the Washington Post, is rooting for their man. To describe the call as panicked would be an understatement.

Jim Woolsey, the former CIA director who publicly connected Iraq to the 9/11 attacks without any evidence in 2001, and senior foreign-policy adviser Randy Scheunemann spent more time whining about the Washington Post’s standards of fairness than on the logic of why Al Qaeda might prefer Sen. John McCain. “An amazing piece of journalism, and I use journalism in quotation marks,” Scheunemann said, going on to list barely approving quotes of Sen. Barack Obama from Hamas, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad and Libyan dictator Muammar Qaddafi, which he said he wasn’t going “to characterize.” Woolsey, for his part, peered into the mind of what he called “one individual Islamist blogger from one terrorist Islamist blog” and determined that he was “clearly trying to damage John McCain” and “not speaking from his heart.”

What was absent from the call, oddly enough, was any discussion about why Al Qaeda might want McCain to win. And there the case is simple enough. Al Qaeda prefers an indefinite U.S. occupation of Iraq and a bellicose U.S. all across the Muslim world to radicalize Muslims to its terrorist cause and drain the U.S. of its financial wealth — what Osama bin Laden calls his “bleed to bankruptcy” strategy. Hence, the reason why, as the CIA eventually concluded, Bin Laden tried to help George W. Bush’s reelection in 2004 by releasing a late-October tape. McCain pledges basic continuity with Bush on the Iraq war. As Scheunemann put it, “John McCain will spend what it takes to win.”

Yet the idea of Al Qaeda preferring a U.S. strategy that strengthens it confounded the McCain camp. “It is ridiculous to believe that in its heart of hearts, Al Qaeda wants John McCain to be the president,” Woolsey said. “It’s ludicrous.” But the only thing that’s ludicrous is Woolsey’s expectation that the American public will keep falling for this sort of misdirection by the same blinkered analysts who blundered the U.S. into Iraq in the first place. - Source

You just can't make this shit up. They seriously can't understand why Al Qaeda is endorsing John McCain? They can't connect the dots after it's already been concluded that Al Qaeda tried to help Bush win in 2004?

And OMG, look, bin Laden's "bleed to bankruptcy" strategy has been working! Wow. Just Wow. Wow.



I gotta believe the AP has this one : )



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

I don't think they would truly want to endorse McCain, whether genuinely or for reverse psychology. I think they want to divide the nation.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

I believe it. They want somebody who's willing to stay in Iraq for 100 years, because every day we spend in Iraq we blow a shitload of money and we inspire a bunch of new recruits to join Al-Qaeda.



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steven787 said:
Byron York the article isn't online in full but this is his blog:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OGY5ODU3N2VkNDY4OGIzYWYyYjVlYWFhZDViZmU2OWI=

BTW, it was completely irresponsible and stupid of CNN to stop reading at the first sentence. Idiots all over the media.

This is what he said about the quoted part:  "But they were talking about the fact that your experience as governor is not getting out."

So, from what I can tell, Griffin (the CNN guy) didn't mean to take it out of context.  He just asked the question like an idiot.  (Which, now that I come to think of it, is consistent with your post.)



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If you raise taxes on the rich they will have less money, and then fire one of there middle class workers. Then you will have a huge tax break for middle class seeing as you will have no income and be getting a check from the gov on unemployment.



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bigjon said:
If you raise taxes on the rich they will have less money, and then fire one of there middle class workers. Then you will have a huge tax break for middle class seeing as you will have no income and be getting a check from the gov on unemployment.

Are you sure they won't just sell their least favorite house?  



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bigjon said:
If you raise taxes on the rich they will have less money, and then fire one of there middle class workers. Then you will have a huge tax break for middle class seeing as you will have no income and be getting a check from the gov on unemployment.

So are you saying that Americans aren't capable of starting their own businesses?

And at the AP discussion about Al Queda "endorsing" McCain, the logic seems totally valid to me.  Terrorists are able to sustain themselves because people in the Middle East hate America.  People in the Middle East hate America because we stick our dick in the Middle East and rape everything in sight. 

If we stop interfering in the Middle East, the average person won't hate us.  And if the terrorists can't convince the average person to hate us, then only the true extremists are left, which is probably only 10-30% of the terrorists.  Most terrorists were regular people before they were terrorists, and wouldn't have a problem going back to their regular life if they no longer had a reason to commit terrorism.

 



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