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I hate that phrase, gotcha journalism. In the context of Palin, they "got her" by showing the world how fucking stupid she is, that she can't even form a coherent sentence if she didn't study it on a notecard beforehand.



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

 

<2.5% = orange

>2.5% = white

So why do these not match?

23/4 Jul-1966 2.64%
31/5 Jul-1968 2.73%
6/6 Apr-1975 2.93%
10/7 Apr-1976 2.98%
12/9 Oct-1976 2.86%
62/20 Jul-1979 2.88%
38/18 Jan-1987 2.63%
47/21 Apr-1989 2.63%
48/22 Jul-1989 2.85%
55/28 Apr-1991 2.60%

My first guess was that the break should have been stated as 3%.  But wait!

79/30 Oct-1995 2.93%
80/30 Jan-1996 2.82%
87/30 Oct-1997 2.95%
89/30 Apr-1998 2.65%
66/34 Jan-2002 2.72%
75/41 Oct-2004 2.52%
77/41 Apr-2005 2.78%
81/44 Apr-2006 2.65%
89/50 Apr-2008 2.80%

Looks like the criteria changed somewhere in the early '90s.  

Fortunately, the bias doesn't favor the Democrats much.  (3 D unfairly blamed vs. 7 R, or 4 D unfairly credited vs. 5 R, makes an overall bias of 11 to 8 in favor of Democrats, I believe, but I may be wrong.)  I'm glad I found this mistake, because someone else could have potentially blown it out of proportion.  (A difference of 3 [edit: effectively 6 due to swing?] out of [edit: ~270?])



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akuma587 said:
I hate that phrase, gotcha journalism. In the context of Palin, they "got her" by showing the world how fucking stupid she is, that she can't even form a coherent sentence if she didn't study it on a notecard beforehand.

Basically, when it's not FOX or NY Post, it's gotcha. In real world, gotcha journalism is asking real questions. In FOX world, it's tossing softballs and letting her swing for the fence.

 



madskillz said:
akuma587 said:
I hate that phrase, gotcha journalism. In the context of Palin, they "got her" by showing the world how fucking stupid she is, that she can't even form a coherent sentence if she didn't study it on a notecard beforehand.
Basically, when it's not FOX or NY Post, it's gotcha. In real world, gotcha journalism is asking real questions. In FOX world, it's tossing softballs and letting her swing for the fence.

(@ madskillz:  this response kinda took on a life of its own and I don't mean this as a lecture to you)

The sad thing is, gotcha questions do exist.  What the spin artists want us to ignore is that gotcha questions unfairly put a person on the spot in an attempt to show them up or get something juicy or just make them look awkward.  Like, say, this interview of Kerry

SCHIEFFER: Let me show you something you said the other day. You were over at the White House for the Rosa Parks dedication.
Sen. KERRY: Yes, sir.
SCHIEFFER: And as you came out of the White House, a reporter ask you this question. Just listen.

(Excerpt from December 1, 2005)
Unidentified Man: Do you ever find yourself saying, `How did I lose to this guy?'
Sen. KERRY: No. I know how I lost.
(End of excerpt)

SCHIEFFER: Well, I must say, Senator, if there was ever a question that begged a follow-up. So why do you think you lost?
Sen. KERRY: It's not getting a follow-up. I'm not going backwards, Bob. I'm going forwards. I'm going to take the lessons I learned, take the mistakes I made. I certainly made some, but I'm proud of the campaign. I'm proud of what we achieved. We tried to run a very positive offering of a vision for the nation. America is a great country and I love being out there. And I think we can do a lot better than we're doing today and a lot of Americans think that. So I'm just going to keep working.
SCHIEFFER: If you were at a graduate seminar on politics and they said, `Well, Senator, what did you learn?'
Sen. KERRY: I've avoided those. I've avoided those on purpose so that I don't have to do that.
SCHIEFFER: Well, what do you think was the great lesson of that campaign?
Sen. KERRY: Well, there were a lot of great lessons, Bob, but as I said, if I decide to run again, I'll show them to you rather than talk about them.

Compared with:

Couric: And when it comes to establishing your worldview, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this to stay informed and to understand the world?
Palin: I've read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.
Couric: What, specifically?
Palin: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me all these years.
Couric: Can you name a few?
Palin: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news, too. Alaska isn't a foreign country, where it's kind of suggested, "Wow, how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, D.C., may be thinking when you live up there in Alaska?" Believe me, Alaska is like a microcosm of America.

All of them.  Really. 

It's not the media's fault if Palin's complete inability to give anything other than canned talking points in response to simple questions showed her up and made her look awkward, and was therefore juicy. 



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Final-Fan said:
madskillz said:
akuma587 said:
I hate that phrase, gotcha journalism. In the context of Palin, they "got her" by showing the world how fucking stupid she is, that she can't even form a coherent sentence if she didn't study it on a notecard beforehand.
Basically, when it's not FOX or NY Post, it's gotcha. In real world, gotcha journalism is asking real questions. In FOX world, it's tossing softballs and letting her swing for the fence.

(@ madskillz:  this response kinda took on a life of its own and I don't mean this as a lecture to you)

The sad thing is, gotcha questions do exist.  What the spin artists want us to ignore is that gotcha questions unfairly put a person on the spot in an attempt to show them up or get something juicy or just make them look awkward.  Like, say, this interview of Kerry

SCHIEFFER: Let me show you something you said the other day. You were over at the White House for the Rosa Parks dedication.
Sen. KERRY: Yes, sir.
SCHIEFFER: And as you came out of the White House, a reporter ask you this question. Just listen.

(Excerpt from December 1, 2005)
Unidentified Man: Do you ever find yourself saying, `How did I lose to this guy?'
Sen. KERRY: No. I know how I lost.
(End of excerpt)

SCHIEFFER: Well, I must say, Senator, if there was ever a question that begged a follow-up. So why do you think you lost?
Sen. KERRY: It's not getting a follow-up. I'm not going backwards, Bob. I'm going forwards. I'm going to take the lessons I learned, take the mistakes I made. I certainly made some, but I'm proud of the campaign. I'm proud of what we achieved. We tried to run a very positive offering of a vision for the nation. America is a great country and I love being out there. And I think we can do a lot better than we're doing today and a lot of Americans think that. So I'm just going to keep working.
SCHIEFFER: If you were at a graduate seminar on politics and they said, `Well, Senator, what did you learn?'
Sen. KERRY: I've avoided those. I've avoided those on purpose so that I don't have to do that.
SCHIEFFER: Well, what do you think was the great lesson of that campaign?
Sen. KERRY: Well, there were a lot of great lessons, Bob, but as I said, if I decide to run again, I'll show them to you rather than talk about them.

Compared with:

Couric: And when it comes to establishing your worldview, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this to stay informed and to understand the world?
Palin: I've read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.
Couric: What, specifically?
Palin: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me all these years.
Couric: Can you name a few?
Palin: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news, too. Alaska isn't a foreign country, where it's kind of suggested, "Wow, how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, D.C., may be thinking when you live up there in Alaska?" Believe me, Alaska is like a microcosm of America.

All of them.  Really. 

It's not the media's fault if Palin's complete inability to give anything other than canned talking points in response to simple questions showed her up and made her look awkward, and was therefore juicy. 

Indeed, there definitley is gotcha journalism.  Its just sad that people like Palin are so dumb that they have to claim questions a kid who has taken a high school government class could answer are "gotcha journalism".  Hell, I could tell you several Supreme Court decisions I disagreed with at that age.

 



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Here's my theory: usually, reporters ask some pretty tough questions but then let politicians give a two-minute rambling speech instead of answering anything, without even trying to call them on it.

Maybe Couric is so used to doing easy softball interviews that when Palin dodged the question she was like "WTF?" and just reverted to human instinct which is to repeat the question.  Then when it happened again she knew it was too good to pass up.  



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akuma587 said:

Indeed, there definitley is gotcha journalism.  Its just sad that people like Palin are so dumb that they have to claim questions a kid who has taken a high school government class could answer are "gotcha journalism".  Hell, I could tell you several Supreme Court decisions I disagreed with at that age.

 

I am sure you could. I imagine you could recall them instantly during an interview. If anyone is asked this question, they should simply say "Plessy v. Ferguson." Who, in today's age, would agree with segregation? I suppose David Duke and a few people but not many.

Honestly, why did she not pick a gimme magazine like "Time" or "US News and World Report?" Oy, Sarah, you could have answered those two questions with ease!



Thanks final fan, it's fixed now.

Edit: BTW, it shows pretty much the same thing until my final calculation... both are about the same if you blame the negatives of the first five on the previous administration.  But I didn't calculate the positives... which would knock it back to a Democratic lead.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

Vietnam Vets against McCain.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.