1. Agree

2. Yes, but why does middle class have to equal ignorant?

3. Fair Tax always sounds great but the tax burden then falls evenly on every American, I believe that money made off of the of American investment markets should be taxed more than money from labor.  Taxes on spending only isn't very fair to any one who invests in bonds or deposit accounts instead of things like the stocks, commodities, etc (which are the motivating factors behind most wars cause much of the poverty).

4. More socialist sounding than any of Obama's programs.

5. Earmarks are one of the most important parts of our federal system, a state should be able to ask for money for programs then the entirety of congress should judge its value to the entire nation.  However, I do think that earmarks should be limited to certain types of bills.  Eliminating all earmarks removes the Federal Government from it's role of service TO the states.

6. I do not trust all member of congress to keep their mouths shut, bipartisan committees are just fine.  To do #6 would require security clearance for all, that would be bad and would be used by theparty in power to weaken the minority party's ability to get competent people into office.

The FairTax?  It's been a while since I got involved in THAT discussion...
(For those uninterested in perusing the whole thread, this post gives a good cross-section of many major points of contention IMO, with fairly detailed arguments and evidence on both sides.)

Read it and weep. Obama has put a stay on the order that has him putting up his birth certificates. The one he did put up on his site, btw, used a printer that was made this year and not '61.

Country is Headed to a Constitutional Crisis

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 10/06/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that Obama and Democratic National Committee [DNC] filed a Joint Motion for Protective Order to Stay Discovery Pending a Decision on the Motion to Dismiss (which was) filed on 09/24/08.

While legal, Berg stated he is “outraged as this is another attempt to hide the truth from the public; it is obvious that documents do not exist to prove that Obama is qualified to be President.” The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.

Their joint motion indicates a concerted effort to avoid the truth by attempting to delay the judicial process, although legal, by not resolving the issue presented: that is, whether Barack Obama meets the qualifications to be President.

It is obvious that Obama was born in Kenya and does not meet the “qualifications” to be President of the United States pursuant to our United States Constitution. Obama cannot produce a certified copy of his “Vault” [original long version] Birth Certificate from Hawaii because it does not exist.


http://www.obamacrimes.com/ Official website of Phillip Berg, Attorney at Law (I know the url smells of bias but the documents there are quite official).

His mother was a U.S. citizen, so he is automatically elidgible, just like McCain, who was born in Panama, or Goldwater who was born in Arizona before it was a state.

The birth certificate is a reprint, just like mine.  I have my original in a safe and a certified reprint from the state of Florida.  It says right on the front that it's a copy.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

     §338-13  Certified copies.  (a)  Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.

     (b)  Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original, subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18.

     ( c )  Copies may be made by photography, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health. [L 1949, c 327, §17; RL 1955, §57-16; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; HRS §338-13; am L 1978, c 49, §1]

BTW, about McCain he was born in Panama.

"Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth."

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86755.pdf

Which leads me to wonder why you are pushing one candidate's elegibility and not the other.

Is it his political alignment or his skin color?

This is pathetic.  McCain was born to a high-ranking admiral on a military base in US-leased land from Panama with 2 American parents.   Obama was most likely born in Kenya with 1 American mother and 1 Kenyan father.  The whole Kenyan side of his family said they saw him born.  Your attempts to label me as a racist are pathetic as you should see my other posts on that issue.  Do it again and I can assure you that the Report this Post button will be pressed.

You did not discuss the small biz post that i gave for you to look at. Also, I posted about the legality of Obama's citizenship and you did not really discuss it either. Is it because there is no answer? Anyways, this, again, is from the citizenship code detailing who is a citizen from birth. 1401. 1401 includes, but is not limited to the relevant part I am going to post and peopel with two citizen parents born on us soil. So, in this code they are equal.

Here it is, again:

Obama Citizenship (even if born in kenya):

http://law.onecle.com/uscode/8/1401.html

(g) "a person born outside the geographical limits of the United
States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an
alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to
the birth of such person, was physically present in the United
States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods
totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were
after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any
periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United
States, or periods of employment with the United States
Government or with an international organization as that term is
defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any
periods during which such citizen parent is physically present
abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of
the household of a person (A) honorably serving with the Armed
Forces of the United States, or (B) employed by the United States
Government or an international organization as defined in section
288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the
physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso
shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24,
1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its
present form on that date"

The provided part basically says that military service counts as "being in the US" for this exception

Now, it is common for people to want suits to be thrown out. Most of this is because of the hassle of litigation, such as time and money. Second, many nutty cases are thrown out. Being thrown out is a sign that a case has no merit or true evidence. The fact of the matter is, even if Obama is born in kenya, he is a citizen with equal stature as one born from two citizen parents in the US. A citizen at birth is a citizen at birth, there is no discrimination between the different stuations that allow it.

As of October 7th, 2008.

Obama: 349 (+20)

McCain: 174 (-20)

Tie: 15 (nc)

• Missouri and Colorado have went from slightly McCain to slightly Obama.
• Florida and Virginia went from slightly Obama to weak Obama.
• It is interesting to note that the highest Strong McCain state is Tennesee; Texas and Georgia are both weak McCain now.

Texas is "weak McCain"? I'm flabbergasted (and happy to be able to use the word "flabbergasted").

I noticed there was mention of a strategy for Republican resurgence. As a Taft Republican, I would like to provide my input on this issue.

1) The Republicans must reinstate a policy of non-interventionism. Our constant meddling in other nation's affairs has earned our nation a tarnished reputation. We must again implement a strategy where military action is only used in cases of self-defense. We must also end our empire. We need to recall our troops from Germany, Italy, Japan, South Korea, and various other nations. We must end this foolishness of implementing a missile defense shield...especially in Europe.

2) Robert A. Taft once opposed the Nuremberg Trials because they violated the basic principles of American justice. As Republicans, we must be at the forefront of expanding civil liberties and civil rights as we once were. I would advocate the support of gay marriage. This would alienate the religious right...which is a good thing. We must end talk of expanding Guantanamo and secret prisons. We must not advocate denying prisoners the writ of habeas corpus and other such foolishness.

3) We need to again practice fiscal responsibility. If we are going to cut taxes, which we should do, we must also cut spending.

4) We must reinstate the policies of reduced government. During the Bush presidency, government has grown at alarming rates. We passed such foolish legislation as the NCLB Act of 2001.

There are other issues I could address, but those are some of the most pertinent. As it currently stands, the GOP is moving further away from where it once stood. It appears as if I will be voting Libertarian for many more years.