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Vasot on 14 September 2008
dougsdad0629 said:
Vasot said:
megaman89 said:

 I feel if the 360 did not have rrod the problem it would have easily sold between 30 – 50m This is not a fanboy i have both consoles but feel the rrod is just a major setback for Microsoft.

 

Please discuss!

 

 

RROD is almost non existant in the 2007 versions of the console and after

My Xbox360 runs fine without any problems

 

 I'm not calling you a liar, but the burden of proof is on you for a statement like that.  Show me proof that the 2007 versions or later of the console no longer have a RROD issue.

 

Read my post better i said ALMOST non existant i did not said "no longer"...

Press the link below

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2008/jun/12/thexbox360rrodsolvedmicro

 

FROM GUARDIAN.CO.UK:

Eventually, recognising its error (durr), Microsoft went to an outside ASIC vendor. Which made a newer chip. And the latest bunch of Xbox 360s you see use those chips. Which get less hot. Which means fewer failures.



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MrBubbles on 14 September 2008
megaman89 said:

 

that where the ps3 shines it gives you peace of comfort not having to worry about any heat issues

 

 

 

360 has real heating problems.

 

 

the ps3 gets, by far, hotter than the 360.



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Jo21 on 14 September 2008

^^ what?

ps3 heatsink problems are minor compared to the 360s

that its main cause of the rrod after all.

by january 2008 estimated over 10% of the fail rates,



Domicinator on 14 September 2008
Jo21 said:

^^ what?

ps3 heatsink problems are minor compared to the 360s

that its main cause of the rrod after all.

by january 2008 estimated over 10% of the fail rates,

 

There are a lot of "my PS3 is dead" posts popping up on the Sony side lately.  Flashing red light.  One guy went so far as to call it the RDoD.  (Red Dot of Death)

I'm not saying it could be a widespread problem, but it's not impossible.  I think based on what I've seen on this forum and many others lately that PS3 fanboys might want to put a sock in it about the RRoD.  PS3s run really hot, always have.  Much hotter than the 360.  It's definitely not a stretch to think they may be designed to run a little too hot for their own good.




4lc0h0l on 14 September 2008
Vasot said:
coolestguyever said:
Now that the PS3 has MGS4, Resistance, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Gran Turismo Prologue, and Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, SOCOM, Little Big Planet, and many more multi-plat games before the year is done.

 

What the hell are you talking ??There is already a huge list about upcoming Xbox360 games in this forum haven't you seen it ??

Let me name few...
- Splinter Cell Conviction - Banjo Kazooei Nuts and bolts - Ninja Blade  - GEARS OF WAR 2- ALAN WAKE- FABLE 2- HALO WARS
- LEFT 4 DEAD- VELVET ASSASSIN- DEAD ISLAND
- VIVA PINIATA TROUBLE IN PARADISE- White Cold- Trouble in Paradise- Dungeon Hero- Shadow Harvest- Star Ocean 4- Venetica- Mobile Ops - the one year war- The Last Remnant - Command and Conquer Red alert 3 - Age of Conan - Hyberian Adventures- Geometry Wars - Retro evolved 2
- Captain Blood- Tales of Vesperia
Also Microsoft has announced 12 exclusive games for the Xbox360 for 2009  They have not given their names to the press yet...

Is it me or half of those games suck?or are pretty standar games??? (I OWN A 360)

 



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phil on 14 September 2008

Microsoft would likely not have been able to deal this supposed "death blow" were it not for RRoD. To get rid of that problem, they would have had to delay the release of the 360 and would have lost the leg up that they got from that. The RRoD and success of the 360 are inextricably linked together.



Jo21 on 14 September 2008
Domicinator said:
Jo21 said:

^^ what?

ps3 heatsink problems are minor compared to the 360s

that its main cause of the rrod after all.

by january 2008 estimated over 10% of the fail rates,

 

There are a lot of "my PS3 is dead" posts popping up on the Sony side lately.  Flashing red light.  One guy went so far as to call it the RDoD.  (Red Dot of Death)

I'm not saying it could be a widespread problem, but it's not impossible.  I think based on what I've seen on this forum and many others lately that PS3 fanboys might want to put a sock in it about the RRoD.  PS3s run really hot, always have.  Much hotter than the 360.  It's definitely not a stretch to think they may be designed to run a little too hot for their own good.

 

its runs hotter? well thats news to me, even so the ps3 are not known for  headsink problems out of 100 only 2 have problems.

sony took a year to make the ps3 design better to disipate heat and it have more high tech fan, it runs hotter maybe (don't know since i don't own a 360, the ps3 is more reliable and also considering 100% of my friends with 360 (5 friends) got RROD so i can't be inbiased.

 



gebx on 14 September 2008
coolestguyever said:
360 HAD the best game library. With Halo 3, Gears of War, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Forza 2, Project Gotham Racing 4 all while the PS3 only had Resistance to counter with.

Now that the PS3 has MGS4, Resistance, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Gran Turismo Prologue, and Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, SOCOM, Little Big Planet, and many more multi-plat games before the year is done.

By the end of the year in my opinion, the PS3's lineup is equal to or greater than the 360's lineup and more diverse. 360 only has FPS, Racing, and really one good RPG, the PS3 has Shooters, platformers, Racing, and action games.

 

ahah, is there a magical game fairy that will suddenly release PS3 games before the end of year?

The PS3 and 360 Fall 08 lineup both have their strengths, neither is better then the other.. the only difference is that the 360 already has 250 more games released then the PS3.

 



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Domicinator on 14 September 2008
Jo21 said:
Domicinator said:
Jo21 said:

^^ what?

ps3 heatsink problems are minor compared to the 360s

that its main cause of the rrod after all.

by january 2008 estimated over 10% of the fail rates,

 

There are a lot of "my PS3 is dead" posts popping up on the Sony side lately.  Flashing red light.  One guy went so far as to call it the RDoD.  (Red Dot of Death)

I'm not saying it could be a widespread problem, but it's not impossible.  I think based on what I've seen on this forum and many others lately that PS3 fanboys might want to put a sock in it about the RRoD.  PS3s run really hot, always have.  Much hotter than the 360.  It's definitely not a stretch to think they may be designed to run a little too hot for their own good.

 

its runs hotter? well thats news to me, even so the ps3 are not known for  headsink problems out of 100 only 2 have problems.

sony took a year to make the ps3 design better to disipate heat and it have more high tech fan, it runs hotter maybe (don't know since i don't own a 360, the ps3 is more reliable and also considering 100% of my friends with 360 (5 friends) got RROD so i can't be inbiased.

 

 

Yeah, you're only one of the biggest Sony fanboys on this site, so you couldn't POSSIBLY be biased. 




HanzoTheRazor on 14 September 2008

@vasot

Not only are a lot of these 360 exclusive games shit, but many will appear on the PS3 too.

1. There will be a ToV game for the PS3 [who knows, maybe even the 360's one will be ported too, as it will not reach expected WW sales]
2. Left for Dead will be ported to the PS3, next year
3. The Last Remnant is comming to the PS3
4. Star Ocean 4 will come to the PS3, [even here in Japan it doesn't say "only for 360"].
5. Geometry Wars creators said that they are comming to the PS3

Takes away a fair bit of must haves from your 360's list. Also, IMHO the PS3's exclusives next year will bury the 360, time will tell.



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