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MrBubbles said:
that comment about the pig was definately a stab at palin. he knew how it would appear...and thats why he said it. he could easily used another saying to express himself without any sort of issue. he chose that because he could insult palin as well as appear to be in context with what he was talking about. obama is a lot of things...but he isnt a complete idiot.

 

Is one of those things the antichrist? heheh, sorry, I can't resist.



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The_vagabond7 said:
MrBubbles said:
that comment about the pig was definately a stab at palin. he knew how it would appear...and thats why he said it. he could easily used another saying to express himself without any sort of issue. he chose that because he could insult palin as well as appear to be in context with what he was talking about. obama is a lot of things...but he isnt a complete idiot.

 

Is one of those things the antichrist? heheh, sorry, I can't resist.

 

atm, im not convinced he isnt...so yes, i would still include that if i were to make a list of them.



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Soleron said:

But he's still better than the alternative. All politicians are liars; some of them have bad ideas too. When you get a choice of two lying, manipulating, corrupt candidates, pick the one who at least claims to have policies you agree with.

If you agree in principle with what Bush was doing, then vote Republican. If not, then vote Democrat. It's very simple - both outcomes will be bad, but one has a slight chance of being better. Even if McCain is anti-Bush (I doubt it), his presidency will strengthen the Republican Party - who ARE following Bush's ideaology.

Actually supporting Obama supports the Bush Republicans.

The President is the head of the party.  If McCain wins the moderate republicans will win out and get a lot more influence and take control of the party... returning more to the days of people like Roosevelt.

If he loses.  The Bush republicans can say "See moderates can't win" then the next presidential candidate will be some super conservative, right wing christian governor.



stof said:
Palin: I said thanks, but no thanks to the bridge to nowhere!

Obama: Actually, you fought for that bridge and received a lot of money for it, only to back down when it became a national embarrassment, while still keeping the federal funding you'd received. Saying you opposed the bridge is a lie.

Palin: That's not true! In reality I only fought for that bridge and received a lot of money for it, only to back down when it became a national embarrassment, while still keeping the federal funding I'd received. Saying that I lied about opposing the bridge is a lie! You're a liar Obama!

 

Actually she was for a bridge.  Not a giant 13 million dollar bridge.  When it came back a giant 13 million dollar bridge instead of a nice small one for the 600 people or so who need she put the funds to other things.

It's actually exactly what a govoner should do honestly.



Also... these are some bad exapmes of Obama changing his stance anyway.

Some good ones are his support of Offshore Drilling after saying McCain wanting to do Offshore Drilling was a joke.

Saying he just wants Canada and Mexico (aka Mexico) to pay it's workers a little better and be a little more enviromentally favorable... after promising to change or withdraw from NAFTA if it wasn't chagned to protect American Jobs.

Being a big supporter of Ethanol and "Clean Coal" when he's running as an enviromentalist and wants green technology. (Ethanol and "Clean Coal" are not enviormentally safe.)



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Kasz216 said:
Soleron said:

But he's still better than the alternative. All politicians are liars; some of them have bad ideas too. When you get a choice of two lying, manipulating, corrupt candidates, pick the one who at least claims to have policies you agree with.

If you agree in principle with what Bush was doing, then vote Republican. If not, then vote Democrat. It's very simple - both outcomes will be bad, but one has a slight chance of being better. Even if McCain is anti-Bush (I doubt it), his presidency will strengthen the Republican Party - who ARE following Bush's ideaology.

Actually supporting Obama supports the Bush Republicans.

The President is the head of the party.  If McCain wins the moderate republicans will win out and get a lot more influence and take control of the party... returning more to the days of people like Roosevelt.

If he loses.  The Bush republicans can say "See moderates can't win" then the next presidential candidate will be some super conservative, right wing christian governor.

I really agree with this. Obama winning is actually very good for the crazy right wing, and religious fundementalists and all the people that make the republicans look bad or just downright crazy. If Obama wins, it will just justify all of their beliefs and give them somebody to hate for 4-8 years. They can rile themselves up, call him the antichrist, anything that goes wrong can be blamed on him being a liberal democrat, he becomes the target and scapegoat of the bush style republicans who will be convincing one another that they NEED power and the only way to get it is with a gun toting jesus freak that thinks that some nation is the incarnation of Satan's will.

 

 if McCain wins (assuming he wins with enough of his moderate credential in tact), it takes power away from the extreme right wing/religious fundementalist crazies because they won't own the party anymore. When I want to be optimistic about the election I just try to remind myself that whoever wins, some group some where that deserves it will be taking it up the ass.

 



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Auron said:
Bigjon you should have your own show after bill oriely.

 

Put him on Fox.

 



The_vagabond7 said:
Kasz216 said:
Soleron said:

But he's still better than the alternative. All politicians are liars; some of them have bad ideas too. When you get a choice of two lying, manipulating, corrupt candidates, pick the one who at least claims to have policies you agree with.

If you agree in principle with what Bush was doing, then vote Republican. If not, then vote Democrat. It's very simple - both outcomes will be bad, but one has a slight chance of being better. Even if McCain is anti-Bush (I doubt it), his presidency will strengthen the Republican Party - who ARE following Bush's ideaology.

Actually supporting Obama supports the Bush Republicans.

The President is the head of the party.  If McCain wins the moderate republicans will win out and get a lot more influence and take control of the party... returning more to the days of people like Roosevelt.

If he loses.  The Bush republicans can say "See moderates can't win" then the next presidential candidate will be some super conservative, right wing christian governor.

I really agree with this. Obama winning is actually very good for the crazy right wing, and religious fundementalists and all the people that make the republicans look bad or just downright crazy. If Obama wins, it will just justify all of their beliefs and give them somebody to hate for 4-8 years. They can rile themselves up, call him the antichrist, anything that goes wrong can be blamed on him being a liberal democrat, he becomes the target and scapegoat of the bush style republicans who will be convincing one another that they NEED power and the only way to get it is with a gun toting jesus freak that thinks that some nation is the incarnation of Satan's will.

 

 if McCain wins (assuming he wins with enough of his moderate credential in tact), it takes power away from the extreme right wing/religious fundementalist crazies because they won't own the party anymore. When I want to be optimistic about the election I just try to remind myself that whoever wins, some group some where that deserves it will be taking it up the ass.

 

Yeah, either way at least the Neo-cons will be super pissed for 4 years.  That's something I'm happy about since i'm basically in the exact opposite of their politcal view.

 



Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?ex=1379131200&en=dd4449ce3310ba6e&ei=5124&partner=digg&exprod=digg

Gov. Sarah Palin lives by the maxim that all politics is local, not to mention personal.

So when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the roughly $2 million agency.

Ms. Havemeister was one of at least five schoolmates Ms. Palin hired, often at salaries far exceeding their private sector wages.

When Ms. Palin had to cut her first state budget, she avoided the legion of frustrated legislators and mayors. Instead, she huddled with her budget director and her husband, Todd, an oil field worker who is not a state employee, and vetoed millions of dollars of legislative projects.



EMULATION is the past.....NOW.......B_E_L_I_E_V_E

 

 


i saw that article darkliche, but I don't see how it's relevant to this topic. You're just going to give bigjon something to lash out about, and nobody wants that.



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