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Kasz216 on 14 September 2008
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The_vagabond7 said:
Kasz216 said:
Soleron said:

But he's still better than the alternative. All politicians are liars; some of them have bad ideas too. When you get a choice of two lying, manipulating, corrupt candidates, pick the one who at least claims to have policies you agree with.

If you agree in principle with what Bush was doing, then vote Republican. If not, then vote Democrat. It's very simple - both outcomes will be bad, but one has a slight chance of being better. Even if McCain is anti-Bush (I doubt it), his presidency will strengthen the Republican Party - who ARE following Bush's ideaology.

Actually supporting Obama supports the Bush Republicans.

The President is the head of the party.  If McCain wins the moderate republicans will win out and get a lot more influence and take control of the party... returning more to the days of people like Roosevelt.

If he loses.  The Bush republicans can say "See moderates can't win" then the next presidential candidate will be some super conservative, right wing christian governor.

I really agree with this. Obama winning is actually very good for the crazy right wing, and religious fundementalists and all the people that make the republicans look bad or just downright crazy. If Obama wins, it will just justify all of their beliefs and give them somebody to hate for 4-8 years. They can rile themselves up, call him the antichrist, anything that goes wrong can be blamed on him being a liberal democrat, he becomes the target and scapegoat of the bush style republicans who will be convincing one another that they NEED power and the only way to get it is with a gun toting jesus freak that thinks that some nation is the incarnation of Satan's will.

 

 if McCain wins (assuming he wins with enough of his moderate credential in tact), it takes power away from the extreme right wing/religious fundementalist crazies because they won't own the party anymore. When I want to be optimistic about the election I just try to remind myself that whoever wins, some group some where that deserves it will be taking it up the ass.

 

Yeah, either way at least the Neo-cons will be super pissed for 4 years.  That's something I'm happy about since i'm basically in the exact opposite of their politcal view.