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You think any of the nex-gen consoles will use U-ray, it's a technology developed by Pioneer which allows disks to be 500GB.

 

Just a little than a month after Pioneer Corp. unveiled its technology that could power Blu-ray disc (BD) media with 400GB capacity, the company said that its technologies also allow creating 500GB Blu-ray disc. The company this time did not remain tight-lipped over the timeframe when half a terabyte optical discs are set to become available and provided a guidance.

Apparently, Pioneer's multi-layer disc technology allows to create optical disc with 20 layers, which provides 500GB in total. Pioneer said that the International Symposium on Optical Memory (ISOM) and Optical Data Storage, held during July in Hawaii, where Pioneer Corporation presented its research, defining had previously outlined the industry objective of creating a 20-layer disc to be available between 2010-2012.

For multilayer optical discs, it has been difficult to obtain clear signals from each recording layer in a stable manner due to crosstalk from adjacent layers and transmission loss. Utilizing the optical disc production technology that it has developed in the DVD field, Pioneer solved these problems by, among other things, using a disc structure that can reduce crosstalk from adjacent layers, resulting in a 16-layer optical disc that can playback high-quality signals from every layer.

As for the read-out system, Pioneer achieved stability in the playback of recorded signals by employing a wide-range spherical aberration compensator and light-receiving element that can read out weak signals at a high signal-to-noise ratio in the optical pick-up mechanism. Since the optical specifications of the objective lens, such as numerical aperture (the higher numerical aperture of the objective lens, the smaller diameter of the beam spot focused on a disc surface), are the same as those for the existing BD discs, it is possible to maintain compatibility between the new 16-layer optical disc and the BD discs.

The 16-and 20-layer optical disc technology, capable of storing much more data than the conventional discs on one disc, will greatly reduce the number of discs to be used and therefore contribute to the conservation of resources

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/storage/display/20080806034009_Pioneer_500GB_Blu_Ray_Disc_Becomes_Feasible.html

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come on, anyone have any thoughts on this



Isn't anyone but me excited at the prospect of 500Gb games, this is enormous, humungous it's U_RAY



You posted this like 15 minutes ago. Not everyone can respond in that ammt. of time.

There are other formats similar to this already on the market (HVD) that store even more data. Either way, it's good for the format wars, knowing that future technology is pretty good.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

If U-Ray is a viable option, I'm sure it's already being looked at by at least two of the Big 3. I'd like to see how it impacts and improves the experience, though. Technology for technology's sake doesn't "do it" for me. I gotta be sold!



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Developers don't really utilise the 50GB disc fully , 10 X the capacity probably won't be needed for the next gen at least.




Million said:
Developers don't really utilise the 50GB disc fully , 10 X the capacity probably won't be needed for the next gen at least.

 

2 that I know of off the top of my head...LBP uses 40 gigs, MGS4 uses 50 gigs..

By 2012, games won't reach 500gigs or even close to that.  All the consoles manufacturers need to do is make sure the console can use UP TO that, and they'll never have to worry about space restrictions for developers.  PS4 and XBOX 720 will probably approach 100 gig games though if I had to guess, especially with a MGS4 taking 50 gigs.  Hideo could have probably packed more onto that disc had he had the space.



I would love to see a media that doesn't rotate, something like USB or flash. Rotating means heat, noise and easy to break.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

DirtyP2002 said:

I would love to see a media that doesn't rotate, something like USB or flash. Rotating means heat, noise and easy to break.

 

 What? Are you kidding me?

On topic:

There is another holographic disc that is in development that can supposebly hold 1 TB of data, but the thing is, its not even close to HD.



 

mM

Where on earth does it mention "u"-ray? I assume you mean ultraviolet ray by that, but that'd be UV-ray.

Either way, UV-ray would theoretically be better. You could fit more data into one layer with a tech like that. Wouldn't need a thousand layers to fit 50GB. Instead, maybe as few as two layers?



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