Ok.  There is only one way to disprove what I've said.

As of this moment, what is the high selling JRPG on the PS3 that proves your argument?

I think it's true simply because originally, they were planning on a multi-plat release. 360 doesn't always buy total exclusivity except for with Square Enix (the biggest RPG company around) because they feel that if they release a game 6 months- a year later that it will cripple the sales for the PS3, also it gives gamers who have been anticipating a game incentive to buy a 360 instead of a PS3.

This is the nice version of what I was thinking in my head.

You cleary have no idea what your talking about , the PS3 has over 3X the install base of the 360 in Japan keeping in mind these consoles are actualy owned by not western  but mostly Japanese people .

In comparison to the 360 the PS3 has sold poorly in terms of JRPG's but then again the PS3 hasn't had a high profile JRG to date ...so how exactly are you able to proove this poorly conceived belief ?

Saying the PS3 has no demonstratable ability to sell JRPG's doesn't is so desperate it shoudln't even count as a valid point , even going by install base alone the PS3 should we able to outsell the 360 , every multiplatform game in Japan has sold better on the PS3 than it has the 360 why would JRPG's be any different ?.

Even if your JRPG argument succeeds there's an even more signifant problem , the 360 doesn't even have a million hardware sales  it cannot be a signifant mover of software in comparison to it's competition (which happen to be at the very least 3X bigger in install base) . Without the use of moneyhatts Microsoft has next to nothing to offer the devloper for exclusive games , the XBOX 360 continues to stagnate in Japan and the XBOX brand fails in Japan for yet another year.

And you're plain wrong. The Wii demonstrated that it can clearly sell more JRPG. The crappy spin-off of Tales of Symphonia sold more than the big main Tales of Vesperia. So far, the numbers show that to be true.

Given Namco's initial expectations of 500k units of ToV, the prospect is not good, like not good at all.

I'm not even sure they can break even with 500k, as with ToS, 300k in Japan alone wasn't enough. And they're far from even 200k in Japan.

Pretty much.

Except nothing that happens in the future can possible pwn my argument, given my argument is based around a present day, irrefutable reality.

Your post would fail a little less if I had said something along the lines of "the Ps3 cannot sell JRPG's."

There doesn't seem to be one jRPG on PS3 yet with data tracked in all territories so with regard to PS3 all you can say is its potential is unproven.

"Namco don't need to raise their gaming profile.

They are just choosing to put their JRPG's on the only next generation system that has been proven to sell that genre."

--that pretty says the ps3 cannot sell JRPG's.

"I'm sick of elitist PS3 fans saying things like "Japanese devs have no credibility because they made a title Xbox 360 exclusive."  Vesperia sold excellently on the Xbox 360, as have many other JRPG's."

--link to these so calle delitist ps3 fans saying those things and maybe your post would fail alittle less. and you can not deny that it would sell a heck of a lot better on the ps3 as well, especially in japan.

"Secondly, I have not once said that the PS3 will never sell large quantities of JRPG's.  I have said that it has not proven itself capable of doing so.  The highest selling JRPG on the PS3 sold 110k.  You can argue that this is by default, you can argue that it is due to the Xbox 360's headstart (though the Wii launched at the same time as the PS3 and has a 700k selling JRPG) and you can argue that this is all due to Microsoft moneyhatting publishers.  But at the end of the day this doesn't change the simple fact that you (or me) claiming the PS3 can sell JRPG's in large quantities is an assumption."

--while, as of now, this is all true...why can't you accept the fact the ps3 will sell more JRPG's than the 360? this is basically my whole arguement with you....i just want to see you post "Sorry markers, i forgot the ps3 is pwnzor and will sell thousands upon thousands more JRPG's in the not to distant future." do that and we can all get back to our daily lives. besides history as shown that JRPG's love to sell when on a playstation video game console.

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Total sales of JRPG's on the Xbox 360 exceed 2 million.

On the PS3, im not sure if they reach 200k................"

--again correct, as of now. but again you fail to realize the inevitable, JRPG's will sell more on the ps3 once they are released, which is going to be soon.

"Except nothing that happens in the future can possible pwn my argument, given my argument is based around a present day, irrefutable reality."

--so your saying once the ps3 sells double of eternal sonata and tales of vesperia, when of coursed released and has had the same amount of time on the market, you still would not be pwnd? and how is that, oh please explain in full detail? :]

"The PS3 has no demonstratable ability to sell JRPG's"

--the ps3 has yet to demonstrate this...yes. but i do believe the ps3 is still owned by sony correct? and sony also has had other consoles....like the ps1 and ps2 correct? and on the other consoles they had JRPG's correct? and those JRPG's sold like they were being discontinued correct? so you think once the ps3 has 1-3 solid JRPG's history will not repeat itself?

i do believe you have been served multiple times in this thread...a simple statement that i already prepared for you (up towards the top) is all we need to see to stop this massacre.

(oh and what happened to our bet?? you chicken out?)