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megaman2 said:
Kane said:
What kind of mentality is this? What went wrong with the ps3?? The ps3 is doing fine.

You are a xbot?

Im the sony leader, im just stating where the ps3 went wrong and what sony should have done!!

 

I hear this criticism all the time, all kinds of gamers say this but they ignore the fact that Sony knew that they had to make some heavy investments if it was going to compete with HD-DVD which probably would have won without the PS3.  Now, Sony stands to gain a big chunk of cash from Bd royalties, something that is almost gravy for them b/c they have so little work to do.  Hey, look forward at the next generation when the 720 makes its games on a Blu-ray disc.  A million games selling every week would give Sony some serious royalties, and if you don't beleive me, already Sony Pictures the Blu-ray division has the highest profit margin within Sony. 

That and this idea that of what will  benefit division A will necessarily hurt division B is something that has caused Sony some problems, nobody would ever think that sony's games division and its movies division could help each other but the PS3 won the format war. 

 



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colonelstubbs said:
Good the job the PS3 isnt doing so badly now isnt it

i agree colonel, the ps3 is coming back strong!!

 



there mistake was the price.

at 600$ it was too expensive... even so manufacturing cost was over 800$.

while both 360 and the wii were over the recommended price.

but it plan finally pay up they are ahead of the 360 this year with only one big game mgs4,
gt5 and ff13 are still to come.



Mummelmann said:
d21lewis said:
*Reads Twesterm's list*

*Quietly leaves thread*.

 

*Reads same list*

*Realizes that Ninty and MS have the same amount of grime on their boots*

*Leaves to drink Captain Morgan with the fabulous d21lewis*

You're one funny dude. I read the list and thought exactly the same thing. Arrogance is commonplace in this industry

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Sony did take a huge gamble with the launch price and blu-ray. But what we all need to remember is this will be about a 10 year race. The BR gamble paid off with HD-DVD getting dumped. BR has a limited advantage know but will make a huge difference for the 2nd half of the life of this gen. Most people will agree that the PS3 will eventually pass the 360 and nobody (including Ninty) thought the Wii would do as well as it did.



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twesterm said:
megaman2 said:

Q1 -If the Nintendo wii and Ps3 had been priced the same, who would have been the market leader?

Q2 - If the Ps3 lauched a year earlier, would the Xbox 360 be able to catch up?

 

Whoops, forgot to answer the questions:

  1. Still the Wii.  The PS3 had nothing going for it at the time of launch other than its name.  Nintendo had its name, a new controller, and even a bundled game to show it off.
  2. Hard question-- would any of those 360 exclusives been multiplatform or PS3 exclusives?  Who knows.

 

great analysis my friend

 



you're about 2 years late dude...

Oh, and um..

LBP will be HUGE!!!



darthdevidem01 said:
trestres said:
Lol ROFL!!!!!!!!!

Q1) PS3 at 200 dollars in Japan, 250 in the rest of the world? LOL, it's incredible how blind fanboyism is corrupting a lot of people. This isn't even a possibility for the next 3 years I'd say, do you have an idea of the financial hit that Sony would have taken. Plus I think the Wii would have sold more anyways.

I agree

also that question is like saying

Would a Ferrari sell more than a Honda Civic if it was priced the same

BAsically there is no point to the question

 

What an horrible comparison... this is'nt just about the price. Even with the same price I'm sure that Wii would have sold more than PS3 because of the innovative and fun factors that PS3 doesn't have (motion control and tons of casual games).

 



twesterm said:
megaman2 said:

Q1 -If the Nintendo wii and Ps3 had been priced the same, who would have been the market leader?

Q2 - If the Ps3 lauched a year earlier, would the Xbox 360 be able to catch up?

 

Whoops, forgot to answer the questions:

  1. Still the Wii.  The PS3 had nothing going for it at the time of launch other than its name.  Nintendo had its name, a new controller, and even a bundled game to show it off.
  2. Hard question-- would any of those 360 exclusives been multiplatform or PS3 exclusives?  Who knows.

 

 

Sorry but I beleive your incorrect.

 

If i have any understanding what so ever of the markets that the Wii & PS3 apeal to then i'm pretty certain that the Wii could not outsell the PS3 at a $600 Price point , the casual demographic woudln't be able justify a $600 price tage for the novelty of swinging a motion controller about with their friends at a party etc , the traditional gamer wouldn't be able to justify buying relativley old technology , yes the Wii is "innovative and revolutionary" but that can only add so much perceived value. for a relativley high price a $600 price point would server as too high a barrier for the vast majority of it's current userbase to jump on .

Keepin in mind nintendo came into this gen as the underdog , the Wii needed a low price to gain the consumers confidence.

A cheap Wii vs a Cheap PS3 is a though one to answer and I think depending on the scenario either one could have been the market leader right now. A Cheap PS3 would have completley demolished any competition the XBOX 360 posed ( I think the effect of PS3 price cuts alone demonstrate this) a low price point would most likely killed any opposition the XBOX 360 posed.

The HD format war would have never happened saving Sony possibly 100's of millions of promotional costs , Blu-Ray adoption would have increased at a much more rapid rate , Sony would have generated more profits from the PS3 via blu-ray and software from a larger PS3 install base . Sony with a more profitability ( and already affordable PS3 ) would have more capacity to price cut and sustain losses than their competitor Nintendo.

Sony would have had GTA IV , Devil May Cry , Burnout , Final Fantasy , Tales , Max Effect , Bioshock, Gears Of War and many more titles as exclusives ( or multiplatform at the very least) . 3rd Party developers would have been at their feet like last generation.

 




There is no point of debating how PS3 would have sold if started at the same price as the Wii, it did not it and it was a mistake by SONY, that they still have to recover from.