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Cactus on 08 September 2008
Millennium said:
OK, TC, I reiterate my challenge. You said you got up to Hollow Bastion and then stopped. I challenge you to play one more level -just one- and if after playing that level you still hold the opinion you do now then I'll shut up.

 

 To be more specific, I'm saved right before Malificent, so I've seen some of the Hallow Bastion. I think I'll have to decline your challenge though, since I think I would much rather put this game behind me and have a fresh start with the series by playing Kingdom Hearts II at some point, since it seems to be the most liked (judging from this thread anyway).



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Cactus on 08 September 2008
Onimusha12 said:
perpride said:
Nah dude I disagree I loved the game. I enjoyed the story as well.

Final Fantasy XII is fucking amazing though...comparing the two may be the reason Kindgom Hearts disappointed you. Keep in mind I first played the game less than a year after FFX had come out.

 

 FFXII was such a mediocre product in my eyes that the only people who even accept it as decent, I've convinced myself, are those who have no clue what it could have been. I swear if they make anything an androgynously emo FFX clone such as FFXII was, people will fall all over themselves for it on principal of the game's image and presentation alone. Sigh, you probably prefer the new character designs of FF7 Advent Children over the old ones of FF7 itself too... sigh... youngins these days...

Will people buy into anything if it presents itself with a pretentiously flashy facade of stale gaudy art and is featured on a black box of some variety with the name SONY on it? I don't mean to be attacking your personal opinion dude, you've been nothing but respectful in presenting it and I appologize for not returning the favor in voicing my own opinion, but I cannot emphasize how much I loathe this standard of image/style over content in JRPGs beginning with the PS2. Everything is just a timid copy of FFX anymore, in fact it was Square-Enix's insistance of turning FFXII into FFX that drove the game's director out of the Company out of disgust and frustration resulting in a progressively delayed and mitigated end product.

Van and Penello were about as extraneous to the story of FFXII as DS/PSP spin-offs were. Balthier and Fran were suppossed to be the pirate-like Han Solo and Chewbacca of the story but just ended up being a lame Robbin Hood and the toking Ass & Titty Noble Savage of the only non-human race human enough to be allowed in the main cast by the xenophobic developers. Bausch looked like he wore his sister's clothes and served little more purpose than to be eye candy for Bara Yaoi fans. And Ashe, Ashe was perhaps the most unrelateable, distant and inacessable main female character of any FF game to date, she didn't even have any romantic or emotional investment in any of your main party, the dude she was married to was dead and outside of looking exactly like Yuna, she brought nothing to the fray other than being the sole bond that connected the main party to the story that seemed to be taking place inspite of them.

Seriously though, if you love these games, don't let someone like me make you feel bad for doing so, I'm just frustrated by these trends and the resulting loss of so many things that could have been. Whether I'm right or wrong, people like me will always be there in the wake of change, speaking of the golden days, that all too often, never were.

 

Sorry for my bluntness, but the bolded parts are bullshit, and the underlined part is a ridiculous generalization. The bolded and underlined section is, what I believe, the complete opposite of what happens with this game. The third paragraph seems to be objective opinion (assuming you have played the game, which I somewhat doubt), so I left it alone.

Also, a word of advice, a game is a lot more enjoyable if you don't think about what it could have been, since you're playing it without an obvious bias right from the get-go.



thekitchensink on 08 September 2008

Yes, the game fools you. The 86.5 average on Gamerankings means nothing.



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Cactus on 08 September 2008
thekitchensink said:
Yes, the game fools you. The 86.5 average on Gamerankings means nothing.

 

 I commend you for your wit. It totally overshadows the fact that I adressed this in my original post.



Kingsora_be on 08 September 2008

I hope you lose a hand or something, so you can never play games again.

People who don't like KH aren't whorty to touch a controller.

Kingdom Hearts is like the best game ever.

And since when has a character the obligation to change during a game, I don't think Kratos, Master Chief, Drake, Daxter, Clank, etc. changed



   

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perpride on 08 September 2008

@Onimusha12:

FFXII was twice the game FFX was, coming from a die-hard Final Fantasy fan. It's an opinion so do what you will with it.

Yes, I like the character models from Advent Children better than the original game.

No, I am not some young kid who enjoys anything that looks flashy. I played FF7 on the day that it came out and it is to this day my favourite game of all time.

and finally, the Kingdom Hearts series fucking rules dude...I used to think otherwise until I actually put some time into the first one.

I will be on the third one like flies on shit.



Cactus on 08 September 2008
Kingsora_be said:
I hope you lose a hand or something, so you can never play games again.

People who don't like KH aren't whorty to touch a controller.

Kingdom Hearts is like the best game ever.

And since when has a character the obligation to change during a game, I don't think Kratos, Master Chief, Drake, Daxter, Clank, etc. changed

 

So because I have different tastes than you, you wish physical pain and hardship upon me? Do you understand the severity of that statement you just made? This reminds of of Sora from Kingdom Hearts, and how he never understands the severity of his situation.

Secondly, this is an RPG (unlike the games that the characters you posted reside in), and unless it's going for an old school feel, the game better have characters that change and mature throughout the game.



Onimusha12 on 08 September 2008

But Tifa's tits are half the size in Advent Children? The gave Tifa a breast reduction!!!



Mirson on 09 September 2008

Kingdom Hearts is overrated, but I enjoyed KH2. The first game was very flawed. Terrible controls, bad camera angles, stupid story, the characters lacked personality/characteristic/character development, etc. The game was an interesting idea, I'll give you that. The only good part in that game was Hollow Bastion and beyond. The battle system was okay, but I didn't find it fun.

KH2 was pretty awesome. Fixed all the flaws the first one had and improved the gummi ship part. Very fun. The story and characters still suck. While I loved Organization XIII, they lacked personality. You know nothing about them. The battle system was very organized and very fun. You can pretty much beat the game by pressing x or triangle while healing at times.



The Fury on 09 September 2008

BILLY ZANE!!

I mean Billy freakin' Zane!



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