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Hey akuma, the whole speech is up at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/



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And people call the Democrats the whiny party...I definitely prefer debates about issues, but I don't think Republicans have ever really been that good at focusing on issues in my lifetime.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

TheRealMafoo said:
akuma587 said:
The first half of the speech was...pointless? I didn't really hear that much at all that meant a thing...I have a son in Iraq, I love my family, my candidate is better than the other candidate, and that is about it. Maybe the second half is better.

 

The first part is her trying to let the people know who she is. The second part is what she has done in office, and the last half is her talking shit about Obama (and pumping up McCain)

She does a good job at being the attack dog. I do love one line she says:

"Here's how I look at the choice Americans face in this election: In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers, and then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change"

I love that line, because all I ever hear from Obama is "we need change", but he never tells you what kind of change he is for. He has no platform, other then to say he is different. He response to the speech was this:

"If Gov. Palin and John McCain want to define 'change' as voting with George Bush 90 percent of the time, that's their choice, but we don't think the American people are ready to take a 10 percent chance on change"

Same "Vote for change" bullshit.

I'm afraid you're buying into their rhetoric.  Do you honestly believe a man with no platform could take down a Clinton?  It's really easy to find Obama's platform if you actually care.  He has a web site.  I go to both candidates' web sites every election.  Even if you've already made up your mind, it's good to know your enemey.  Obama also talks about his ideas a lot.  If you're going to reduce Obama's entire platform to "change' I can just as easily reduce McCain's entire platform to "tits."

 



akuma587 said:
And people call the Democrats the whiny party...I definitely prefer debates about issues, but I don't think Republicans have ever really been that good at focusing on issues in my lifetime.

 

Modern republican leaders= Good at setting standards by mouth (to win an arugment) and then breaking them in the same breath. They are much craftier with campaigns to dupe the people into the same story in which they break term after term with the same propoganda and fear mongering.

 

Modern Democrat leaders= Shady, weak and divided. Dems are more prone to selling each other out than Republicans. They come off as whiners for a reason.

 

As you can see, I like neither party. I want to bone Palin though. :)



The speech is finally picking up, I am glad the ridiculous amount of clapping is over.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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O-D-C said:
Hot daughter, she gets my vote.

And we know she puts out.

 



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

I just don't understand how the Republicans plan on getting the national debt under control. I am all for McCain's crusade against pork barrel spending, but pork barrel spending is at an absolute max 5-10% of the federal budget.

We are going to have to raise taxes, or the interest we will be paying on the national debt in 50 years or so will be over 25-35% of the national budget at the rate we are going. Otherwise we will have to severely reduce our military and other areas of the budget to save money.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

The Ghost of RubangB said:
TheRealMafoo said:
akuma587 said:
The first half of the speech was...pointless? I didn't really hear that much at all that meant a thing...I have a son in Iraq, I love my family, my candidate is better than the other candidate, and that is about it. Maybe the second half is better.

 

The first part is her trying to let the people know who she is. The second part is what she has done in office, and the last half is her talking shit about Obama (and pumping up McCain)

She does a good job at being the attack dog. I do love one line she says:

"Here's how I look at the choice Americans face in this election: In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers, and then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change"

I love that line, because all I ever hear from Obama is "we need change", but he never tells you what kind of change he is for. He has no platform, other then to say he is different. He response to the speech was this:

"If Gov. Palin and John McCain want to define 'change' as voting with George Bush 90 percent of the time, that's their choice, but we don't think the American people are ready to take a 10 percent chance on change"

Same "Vote for change" bullshit.

I'm afraid you're buying into their rhetoric.  Do you honestly believe a man with no platform could take down a Clinton?  It's really easy to find Obama's platform if you actually care.  He has a web site.  I go to both candidates' web sites every election.  Even if you've already made up your mind, it's good to know your enemey.  Obama also talks about his ideas a lot.  If you're going to reduce Obama's entire platform to "change' I can just as easily reduce McCain's entire platform to "tits."

 

 

Well in McCain's lifestory (that they didn't tell you at the RNC) he was a well known playboy who only went with choice women. This is why he left his ailing wife for a woman 30 years younger than himself. She was no longer good to him in marriage if she was a gimp, just like he was. She got into a car crash while he was at war and cold heartedly left her. She wasn't useless, she just has a limp and walks with a stick. I doubt most of the Republican fanatics even know about the rest of his children with this woman. He has more kids with this woman than his latest wife.



akuma587 said:
I just don't understand how the Republicans plan on getting the national debt under control. I am all for McCain's crusade against pork barrel spending, but pork barrel spending is at an absolute max 5-10% of the federal budget.

We are going to have to raise taxes, or the interest we will be paying on the national debt in 50 years or so will be over 25-35% of the national budget at the rate we are going. Otherwise we will have to severely reduce our military and other areas of the budget to save money.

Are you saying that reducing government spending is a bad thing? There is a ton of stuff, outside of pork barrel spending that is stupid, and useless. That's kind of why part of the speeches today were about smaller government.

 



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

mrstickball said:
akuma587 said:
I just don't understand how the Republicans plan on getting the national debt under control. I am all for McCain's crusade against pork barrel spending, but pork barrel spending is at an absolute max 5-10% of the federal budget.

We are going to have to raise taxes, or the interest we will be paying on the national debt in 50 years or so will be over 25-35% of the national budget at the rate we are going. Otherwise we will have to severely reduce our military and other areas of the budget to save money.

Are you saying that reducing government spending is a bad thing? There is a ton of stuff, outside of pork barrel spending that is stupid, and useless. That's kind of why part of the speeches today were about smaller government.

 

 

In a recession yes.  To balance a free market with a stable market, the government is depended on to spend wehn others can't and lend when they can. 

That is why democrats and republicans both vote to spend, the only difference is Republicans promise not to.

 

Edit: Ideologically, it gives me a bad feeling.  But when I apply real world studies, history, and economics, it makes sense.

Ideology is good as a guide, but you have to go on more than a gut check.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.