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Forums - General - UN has evidence of ethnic cleansing in South Ossetia.

Kasz216 on 02 September 2008
ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:
ManusJustus said:

Not good.  Reminds me of Serbia and Kosovo, these people hate each other to much to live under the same country.

Yeah... it's a shame.  When you look back at it.  Georgians and Ossetians used to get along as if they were one race.  Until the Russians came into the picture.

Russia didn't start this, they just jumped in afterwards.  South Ossetia was one of many ethnicites vying for independence after the break up of the Soviet Union.

Kind of like Yugoslavia, almost everybody got along until the ball started rolling.

The Soviet Union isn't Russia?

Before Georgia was annexed by the Russians the Georgians and Ossetians lived together as peaceful as any race could.  When the Russians annexed it, a wedge was drawn between the two races because racism is the easiest way to keep the masses subjugated.

The problem with the races started before the soviet union breakup... as a way to control and annex georgia in the first place... then to keep it in place during the revolution... and now... to keep georgia weak again.

 



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ManusJustus on 02 September 2008
Kasz216 said:

The Soviet Union isn't Russia?

Before Georgia was annexed by the Russians the Georgians and Ossetians lived together as peaceful as any race could.  When the Russians annexed it, a wedge was drawn between the two races because racism is the easiest way to keep the masses subjugated.

Georgians and Ossetians lived together peacefully during the Soviet Union.  When the Soviet Union fell and the Soviet republics gained independence, many smaller ethnicities thought they should have independence too.

Countries like the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia had good relations between ethnicities.  Ethnic problems in the Balkans were unheard of under Tito, and the Soviet Union didnt recognize ethnicity in government (Stalin was a Georgian).



Kasz216 on 02 September 2008
ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:

The Soviet Union isn't Russia?

Before Georgia was annexed by the Russians the Georgians and Ossetians lived together as peaceful as any race could.  When the Russians annexed it, a wedge was drawn between the two races because racism is the easiest way to keep the masses subjugated.

Georgians and Ossetians lived together peacefully during the Soviet Union.  When the Soviet Union fell and the Soviet republics gained independence, many smaller ethnicities thought they should have independence too.

Countries like the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia had good relations between ethnicities.  Ethnic problems in the Balkans were unheard of under Tito, and the Soviet Union didnt recognize ethnicity in government (Stalin was a Georgian).

There was no overt racism as they wouldn't have outright rioting in the streets or anything. (Outside of the genocides the Sovet Union put on people...)

However mistrust was sown during the era to make sure each group watched the others... even while they spoke otherwise.

This was the case both during the Soviet Union and Czarist Russia.

Racists just didn't feel free to act since they didn't want to offend anyone else, who may or may not be working with the government.  They didn't act unless given the goahead. (much how the South Ossetians have held off until Russia was magically primed to make it's move.)

Stalin for example, was Georgian.



ManusJustus on 02 September 2008
Kasz216 said:

There was no overt racism as they wouldn't have outright rioting in the streets or anything.

However mistrust was sown during the era to make sure each group watched the others... even while they spoke otherwise.

Stalin for example, was Georgian.

 

Where do you get your information from?

Mistrust was sown?  Nothing causes distrust more than one ethnicity ruling over another.  "Georgians get their own state why do we?", is the question Ossetians asked during the Soviet Union break up.

Yes, Stalin was Georgian, I just said that.  This shows that in the Soviet Union ethnic conflict was not an issue (atleast these ethnicites) because it didnt matter what your ethnicityw as when becoming leader.