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The hits keeps coming!

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml

The National Enquirer is gonna run a piece of an alleged Palin affair. You can't make this crap up.



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madskillz said:
The hits keeps coming!

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml

The National Enquirer is gonna run a piece of an alleged Palin affair. You can't make this crap up.

Lol, ironically The National Enquirer is last to the party rather than first.  At least they were the ones who originally broke the John Edwards affair.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

akuma587 said:
madskillz said:
The hits keeps coming!

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml

The National Enquirer is gonna run a piece of an alleged Palin affair. You can't make this crap up.

Lol, ironically The National Enquirer is last to the party rather than first. At least they were the ones who originally broke the John Edwards affair.

 

Yeah. But they are breaking something no one else, like the Edward's affairs, would report on. What is hella funny is - the GOP were ROTFL when the Enquirer did it to Edwards - and criticized the MSM for not doing more and covering for him. Wow - now, they are gonna sue. Talk about sore losers.

 



akuma587 said:
fkusumot said:

By Paul Kane
ST. PAUL -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.

After the legislature passed a spending bill in April, Palin went through the measure reducing and eliminating funds for programs she opposed. Inking her initials on the legislation -- "SP" -- Palin reduced funding for Covenant House Alaska by more than 20 percent, cutting funds from $5 million to $3.9 million. Covenant House is a mix of programs and shelters for troubled youths, including Passage House, which is a transitional home for teenage mothers.

According to Passage House's web site, its purpose is to provide "young mothers a place to live with their babies for up to eighteen months while they gain the necessary skills and resources to change their lives" and help teen moms "become productive, successful, independent adults who create and provide a stable environment for themselves and their families."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_slashed_funding_to_help.html

I came up with a good campaign slogan for her.  Hypocrisy We Can Believe In!

 

Nice... but I've heard that slogan be applied to Obama already. Do to his ties to specific special interests and his changing to more "Traditional" politics on a number of issues.

 



rocketpig said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
She never left the country until she was in her 40's. What the hell? She just got her passport a couple years ago. And yet Cindy McCain thinks she has foreign policy experience. Hahahaha.

I'm fascinated to know how someone who grew up in Alaska managed to avoid Canada until her 40s.

If true, color me impressed. Way to fight teh Canadia Oppression of Alaska, Sarah. Viva la resistance!

 

 

 As a Canadian, I'm deeply offended. I just bought two pairs of shoes in Massena NY last weekend.



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@ Kaz

You can talk about Obama and have stances, but his smudges can't compare to the truckload of McCain/Palin's dirt. Seriously - all the GOP has on Obama is a connection to attending church with Jeremiah Wright and an old tie to an ex-terrorist from the 70s. McCain and Palin have enough crap to fill at least 25, 30 steamy romance novels.

No, Obama's not perfect, nor am I on the Obama bandwagon - I initially wanted Hillary, but listened to both of them and leaned toward Obama. And I can tell you - I'd vote for Gumby before ever voting for McCain, even if Palin is hella hot.



akuma587 said:
Yeah, screw pregnant teenage women. They should just have to roll over in the street and die if there boyfriend and entire family abandons them for the shame they have brought upon their family name.

They should abandon all future hope of getting an education and take a menial job which won't even provide them enough money to pay for childcare so they have to leave the child by himself.

Then we should arrest them for neglecting their children, and put the kids into foster care.

Then we should leave those kids in foster care because it is more important to worry about kids who aren't born yet (Damn those pro-choice bastards!) than the children who are alive right now. It's their fault for being born!

Then we should imprison those kids right when they hit 17, because they are going to commit crime anyways. They don't abide by our standard of working hard and moving up in this country with your own blood, sweat, and tears.

Damn, I love America.

Your claim was that she was a hypocrite, this does not support your claim at all ... In fact, it occured to me that all these claims that Sarah Palin's views on abstinence only as being the reason Bristol was pregnant are also horribly flawed (or atleast we don't have enough information to make that assumption).

There are (essentially) three realistic ways that Bristol's sexual encounter lead to her pregnancy

  1. Bristol and her boyfriend didn't know that sex lead to pregnancy, didn't know you could protect against pregnancy, or believed in a myth that lead them to have unprotected sex
  2. Bristol and her boyfriend knew that sex can lead to pregnancy and knew that condoms and birthcontrol pills would reduce the probability of Bristol getting pregnant but decided to have unprotected sex anyways
  3. Bristol and her boyfriend knew that sex can lead to pregnancy and took precautions (used a condom, birthcontrol pills, or both) and were just one of the statistically unlucky people who ended up pregnant anyways.

I think we can all agree that #1 is fairly unlikely unless Bristol was prevented from watching television and surfing the internet ...

Now, if it was #2 you could argue that further sexual education would have driven them to take the necessary precautions, but being that teens that are given excellent sexual education still make this mistake it is by no means certain. In general teenagers are hormonal, irrational and have the belief that they will never suffer the consequences of their actions so even well reasoned arguments are often ignored.

If #3 is the case than this would just demonstrate that even the best funded and highest quality sexual education program in the world would have failed to prevent Bristol's pregnancy. In fact, if this is what happened this only adds further support to Sarah Palin's argument that Abstinence is the only appropriate policy for teenagers.

 



fkusumot said:
HappySqurriel said:
 

It would only be hypocritical if she expected Bristol to take advantage of state programs in order to get on her feet ...

If Sarah Palin believes that it is up to the family to take care of pregnant teenagers, and therefore cut public funding for a social program associated with pregnant teenagers, then by taking care of her teenage daughter as a family she would be consistent with her beliefs.

So, your slogan would be "Consistency We Can Believe In!" which is actually a fairly good slogan

Well, how would we know what she believes? Your'e not jumping to conclusions are you? A lot of crappy policy has been made that is consistent within crappy belief systems. But spin it any way you want, I guess.

 

I agree that lots of bad policies are consistent with people's beliefs, and (in fact) I believe that Sarah Palin's policy decision was wrong, this doesn't change the fact that akuma's claim that it was hypocritical was entirely wrong ...

On top of this, I didn't jump to any conclusions ... I made the stament "If Sarah Palin believes ... " which leaves open the possibility that she doesn't believe that.



Kasz216 said:
akuma587 said:
fkusumot said:

I came up with a good campaign slogan for her.  Hypocrisy We Can Believe In!

 

Nice... but I've heard that slogan be applied to Obama already. Do to his ties to specific special interests and his changing to more "Traditional" politics on a number of issues.

 

You're absolutely right, but I think both Obama and McCain have done a pretty good job keeping lobbyists at an arm's length. 

But this is politics in America.  If you think either candidate could even possibly be 100% clean you are just deluding yourself.  That being said, there are politicians who are cleaner than others, such as Obama and McCain, but no politician is completely clean.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Palin is clearly a wack job any way you cut it, her teenage daughter's pregnancy is the least of her worries. The belief that a pipeline is god's will is probably her biggest problem.

The good news for me though is that I own shares in the company that will be building and operating the pipeline, so with a crazy like that supporting it, it's cash in the bank for me.