| fkusumot said: Apparently Bristol got pregnant on the same day that Mario Kart:Wii was released in North America. Coincidence? I think not. |
It is because of the shortages; they couldn't find a copy of Mario Kart so they were bored and shagged instead.
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HappySqurriel said:
Does that mean that someone who is against teaching religion in school is necessarily against teaching religion at home? There are lots of parents in the world who believe that art, music and physical education should not be taught in schools because they do a poor job of it, and it takes away resources from core subjects where American students are struggling; does this mean that they would (necessarily) reject students from learning about these subjects outside of a school setting? I personally grew up in a household where I played two insturments, played multiple sports, learned to draw and paint and my parents hated that the public education system devoted so many resources to programs where students gained 2 years of education in 12 years. There are hundreds of reasons why people believe something should or should not be taught in school, you can not jump to conclusions about what they believe should be taught in the home based on what they think should be taught in schools. The only logical conclusion you can come to from knowing she supports absistence-only sexual education in school is that she supports absistence-only sexual education in school. |
Oh Happy Squirriel, do you really want to make an argument like that? The epistemlogical implications of your own logic would reduce your pronouncement to a statement that has no connection to anything but itself. I did find your colorful anecdotal interpolations quite interesting. But if you want to take every statement and make it a tautology then okay.
fkusumot said:
Oh Happy Squirriel, do you really want to make an argument like that? The epistemlogical implications of your own logic would reduce your pronouncement to a statement that has no connection to anything but itself. I did find your colorful anecdotal interpolations quite interesting. But if you want to take every statement and make it a tautology then okay. |
Eagle Forum Alaska Questionnaire:
Q: Will you support funding for abstinence-until-marriage education instead of for explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics, and the distribution of contraceptives in schools?
SP: Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support.
So what does it mean then if she says she does not support sex-ed programs?
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ManusJustus said:
It makes logical sense that an absistence only supporter would teach her daughter absistence only. Not much of a stretch there. |
I dunno. I'm against muggings and i'd teach my kids about them. Some absistanince only education people may just think that when taught about in official forums there isn't enough of a negative aspect placed on premarital sex making it seem like it's an ok thing. (Which, granted I think it is.... but some people don't.)
Thinking instead it's the duty of the parents to educate there children on stuff like that.
Here is a good article from the Washington Post about McCain's choice, and what the blow-up has taught everyone:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/a_sex_ed_lesson_for_mccain.html
The Lesson of Bristol Palin
By Ruth Marcus
ST. PAUL, Minn. -- Bristol Palin's pregnancy may be the ultimate teachable moment. It just might not be the lesson that John McCain intended.
My first thought on hearing the news was: What was Sarah Palin thinking? Assuming, as the campaign says, that she knew about her 17-year-old's pregnancy and informed McCain in advance, how could she expose her daughter to the inevitable spotlight that Palin's vice presidential nomination would bring?
The unwed mother -- or at least, the not-yet-wed mother -- has become a more common (this is bad) and less shameful (this is good) phenomenon in 21st century America. It's the unusual celebrity (the Hollywood type, not the Obama type) who bothers to get hitched before getting pregnant. The baby bump has become a badge of honor, not a scarlet letter.
And yet, no one feels good about a pregnant 17-year-old, whether Bristol or Jamie Lynn Spears. As Sarah and Todd Palin put it with decided understatement Monday, this will "make her (Bristol) grow up faster than we had ever planned."
And it will be that much more difficult in the media glare. "We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi's (the father) privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates," the Palins said in their statement.
As a parent, I sympathize. But as a parent in the media, I also know that the Palins assumed this risk. Anyone who watched coverage of the Bush twins' barroom exploits knew that the avert-your-eyes stance toward candidates' children has its limits.
It's naive to imagine, in the current anything-goes Internet era, that Palin's daughter's pregnancy would go unremarked. It's also mistaken, I think, to expect it. Like it or not, Bristol Palin's pregnancy is intertwined with an important public policy debate about which the two parties differ and on which Sarah Palin has been outspoken.
Which brings me to the teachable moment: What should teenagers be taught about sexual activity and contraception? By whom? What access should they have to condoms or other forms of birth control? Specifically, is abstinence-only education enough?
The 2008 Republican Party platform acknowledges that "each year, more than 3 million American teenagers contract sexually transmitted diseases, causing emotional harm and serious health consequences, even death." It expresses support for "efforts to educate teens and parents about the health risks associated with early sexual activity and provide the tools needed to help teens make healthy choices."
Then it adds, "Abstinence from sexual activity is the only protection that is 100 percent effective against out-of-wedlock pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases."
Yes, but talking about abstinence turns out to be easier than abstaining. More than 60 percent of high-school seniors report having had sex at least once. The message that every family should take from Bristol Palin's pregnancy is: It can happen here.
Except Sarah Palin opposes programs that teach teenagers anything about contraception. "The explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support," she said in answering a questionnaire from the conservative Eagle Forum during her 2006 gubernatorial race.
McCain has voted to increase abstinence-only funding, to terminate the federal family planning program, and against funding teen pregnancy prevention programs. He voted to require teens seeking birth control to obtain parental consent.
Being a teenager means taking stupid risks. The best, most attentive parenting, the best, most comprehensive sex education, won't stop teenagers from doing dumb things. The most we as parents can hope for is to insulate our children, as best we can, from the consequences of their own stupidity.
I have two daughters back home, 11 and 13 -- close enough to Bristol's age that I cannot comfort myself that her situation is a far-off irrelevance.
When I talk with them about this news, I will use the moment to teach the muddled message that is the only one that makes sense to me in the messy modern world: Wait, please. But whenever you choose to have sex, don't do it without contraception.
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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
Good article Akuma.
Though it makes a lot of sense, I hadn't thought about McCain voting for increased funding for abstinence only education...
I knew this presidential campaign would erode my respect for the guy...
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| stof said: Good article Akuma. Though it makes a lot of sense, I hadn't thought about McCain voting for increased funding for abstinence only education... I knew this presidential campaign would erode my respect for the guy... |
It's hard not to lose respect for any presidential candidate. Anyone who gets to that level of power has some built-in hypocrisy and skeletons in the closet. It's part of what makes this process so nauseating. The people who would be wonderful for this country (Collin Powell, for example) are either too smart or too honest and don't want the fucking job.
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rocketpig said:
It's hard not to lose respect for any presidential candidate. Anyone who gets to that level of power has some built-in hypocrisy and skeletons in the closet. It's part of what makes this process so nauseating. The people who would be wonderful for this country (Collin Powell, for example) are either too smart or too honest and don't want the fucking job.
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Totally agree. The primaries made me dislike Hillary quite a bit, and I was a Hillary supporter for a good period of time. She was acting WAY too much like a politician, which is excusable to some degree, but not to the degree she was taking it.
I switched to Obama a few weeks before the Texas primary.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
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Three months before she was thrust into the national political spotlight, Gov. Sarah Palin was asked to handle a much smaller task: addressing the graduating class of commission students at her one-time church, Wasilla Assembly of God. Her speech in June provides as much insight into her policy leanings as anything uncovered since she was asked to be John McCain's running mate. Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord. "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." |
This. This is the red meat that America is falling in love with.
fkusumot said:
This. This is the red meat that America is falling in love with. |
Go go religious war crusaders! Yeah! We are god's harbingers! Go forth on this holy war! Jihad! Jiha... Oops. My bad, let me try that again..
Edit: Wait a minute. I could swear I saw Palin quoted as saying she had no opinion on the surge because she had not been paying attention, due to business with her work. How can she have an opinion on this war being a task from God if she doesn't even pay attention to what's going on over there? Sounds like pure unsubstantiated rhetoric from her mouth.
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