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vizunary on 30 August 2008
twesterm said:
Dogs Rule said:
Don't offices have power outlets? Mine does. Do planes have some? (a slight fear of flying keeps me grounded, so I don't really remember)

I've never really had battery problems with mine.

 

Offices usually do, planes don't as far as I know (though I haven't flown on anything larger than a 757 in years).

And I know these things can be recharged but my problem is I don't like having to take a charger around with me because I lose them so easily (I'm pretty absent minded).  With my DS, I can take a trip to Austin and not even worry about my charger.  If I got the new PSP, I would have to take my charger with me everywhere I go and always have it plugged in while not in use.

I don't like hassles.

Rubbish, I've got the upgraded gold battery (can't remember the voltage right now) and get about 9 hrs of use out of it with the screen brightness on low. plus all you have to do is simply click the power switch and it hibernates the psp whenever you take a break and it lengthens the use even more. with the standard battery i still got over 7 hrs and if I'm gonna be away from any power for a long period i just charge both batteries and take them with me. sorry, but this does sound like you are just making excuses...



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Geldorn on 30 August 2008
twesterm said:
Final-Fan said:
twesterm said:
greenmedic88 said:
Then why bother pretending to be interested in buying one. Not enough games you're ready to buy? Not interested in a portable media player with a decent sized screen? Not interested in playing multiple games and videos off a single chip?

If not, save yourself a couple hundred bucks and just stick with the DS if it's ideal for your tastes.

Nobody needs to come up with excuses not to buy something they don't want. "I don't want to have to charge it up, I don't want to buy an extra battery, the screen is too bright for me, it doesn't play DS games, etc. etc."

Don't buy. Save your money.

 

I didn't say there weren't enough games.  Actually, if you bothered reading my earlier posts I even said it finally has the library that would make me consider getting it (and the other features -- minus the battery life -- of the 3000 push me over the edge).

My point in saying the list was stupid was because posting a long list of games never impresses.  I can make a long list for any console ever made.  I don't care.  What I care about it games I like, not just some long list of every game available. 

As for the battery, that is still a concern for me.  True, I rarely go more than 6 hours without being near a wall socket, but I do like to keep my charger in a single spot. 

Take my DS for example.  I can play it a little at home, take it to work and play some more, maybe play during lunch or dinner if I'm there, play some more at home, and even go back to work and keep it in sleep mode for a lot of that.

If I have something with a much smaller battery life, I can't do that.  I always have to make sure to bring my PSP home at the end of the day because I will always need to charge it.  I often leave my DS at work just because I don't always want to carry it around.  When I do finally bring it home I will charge it if I happen to bring it to my room.

That shorter battery life is just more of a hassle.  I don't like carrying around the adapter and I like not having to charge my machine at every available opportunity.  I don't care if you find it easy to charge all the time, I don't.  That's why the PSP3000 turned me back off to the idea of the PSP.

So Finalfan, not well said at all.

Fair enough on the games, but let's be clear:  I have never "carried the charger with me" except insofar as I took it on vacation and left it in the hotel room or in the car.  Even the DS can't last an entire 2 week vacation without needing to charge. 

Do you honestly play your DS more than 5 hours a day on workdays?  If yes, what is the best way to get a job like yours?  As for being too lazy to take it home, I guess that might be a dealbreaker for you but to me it sounds pretty weak, so whatever.  At worst, I think, you would have to leave the PSP in sleep mode on the second day instead of playing it again like you could the DS. 

I appreciate the fact that the PSP does not have the kind of battery life the DS does but, seriously, I think it's not so much that the PSP's is bad as it is that you've been spoiled by the DS.

 

Lets pretend I'm playing something like Professor Layton and the Curious Village and I have a map that takes me about 2-3 minutes to load and unload.  Both are fine assumptions since I Professor Layton is an awesome game and I'm dealing with production levels that can take time to load and unload everything in the editor.

I generally do one of these three things during those 2-3 minutes:

  1. Just sit there and stare blankly at the screen for 2-3 minutes
  2. Read news/forums
  3. Play my DS for 2-3 minutes

Assuming it's a day where I feel like doing number three and there' no convienent way to charge my DS while sitting at my desk (my power strip is pretty full), my DS will stay on and/or in sleep mode for at least 8 hours.  So yes, again, battery life is important to me.

Why do people have such a hard time believing that battery life is an important factor for me?  I don't give a flying fuck if you're happy with the battery life because that doesn't make it work any better for me.  I've said this who knows how many times now but for some odd reason people just want to think what works for them works for everyone else.  I've read the advice and I'm taking that into consideration (which I've also said) and that should be plenty for people.

 

Sleep mode is not a valid reason though - the PSP can be left in sleep mode for days before it's batteries run out.

Now, leaving it on will drain them in five to ten (dependend on game what is on) hours obviously. But sleep mode can safely be done for quite a while.



DMeisterJ on 30 August 2008

These threads annoy me.

"I am not buying this console/portable".

Then people try to find lookarounds for the person to help them with their "problem". Somehow, none of the fixes work, and said person doesn't buy the system.

Who fucking cares?

If you're not going to buy the PSP 3k for the lower battery life twesterm, then don't fucking buy it. 37.7 million PSP owners are pretty happy, I'm sure that Sony won't lose any sleep on losing a sale.

Not to take it all out on twesterm, but people who make these threads are annoying.



Gnizmo on 30 August 2008
DMeisterJ said:
These threads annoy me.

"I am not buying this console/portable".

Then people try to find lookarounds for the person to help them with their "problem". Somehow, none of the fixes work, and said person doesn't buy the system.

Who fucking cares?

If you're not going to buy the PSP 3k for the lower battery life twesterm, then don't fucking buy it. 37.7 million PSP owners are pretty happy, I'm sure that Sony won't lose any sleep on losing a sale.

Not to take it all out on twesterm, but people who make these threads are annoying.

 You should try reading the thread. Twesterm actually said he found an acceptable solution to his problem.



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DMeisterJ on 30 August 2008
Gnizmo said:
DMeisterJ said:
These threads annoy me.

"I am not buying this console/portable".

Then people try to find lookarounds for the person to help them with their "problem". Somehow, none of the fixes work, and said person doesn't buy the system.

Who fucking cares?

If you're not going to buy the PSP 3k for the lower battery life twesterm, then don't fucking buy it. 37.7 million PSP owners are pretty happy, I'm sure that Sony won't lose any sleep on losing a sale.

Not to take it all out on twesterm, but people who make these threads are annoying.

 You should try reading the thread. Twesterm actually said he found an acceptable solution to his problem.

I saw that.

I just needed to talk about these types of threads in general.

And he did give everyone who was trying to help him on Page 1 the run-around, not taking suggestions and the like, and it came off like he didn't want his problem fixed.



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Gnizmo on 30 August 2008

Fair enough.



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Final-Fan on 31 August 2008
twesterm said:
Final-Fan said:
[...] let's be clear:  I have never "carried the charger with me" except insofar as I took it on vacation and left it in the hotel room or in the car.  Even the DS can't last an entire 2 week vacation without needing to charge.

Do you honestly play your DS more than 5 hours a day on workdays?  If yes, what is the best way to get a job like yours?  As for being too lazy to take it home, I guess that might be a dealbreaker for you but to me it sounds pretty weak, so whatever.  At worst, I think, you would have to leave the PSP in sleep mode on the second day instead of playing it again like you could the DS.

I appreciate the fact that the PSP does not have the kind of battery life the DS does but, seriously, I think it's not so much that the PSP's is bad as it is that you've been spoiled by the DS.
Lets pretend I'm playing something like Professor Layton and the Curious Village and I have a map that takes me about 2-3 minutes to load and unload.  Both are fine assumptions since I Professor Layton is an awesome game and I'm dealing with production levels that can take time to load and unload everything in the editor.

I generally do one of these three things during those 2-3 minutes:

   1. Just sit there and stare blankly at the screen for 2-3 minutes
   2. Read news/forums
   3. Play my DS for 2-3 minutes

Assuming it's a day where I feel like doing number three and there' no convienent way to charge my DS while sitting at my desk (my power strip is pretty full), my DS will stay on and/or in sleep mode for at least 8 hours.  So yes, again, battery life is important to me.

Why do people have such a hard time believing that battery life is an important factor for me?  I don't give a flying fuck if you're happy with the battery life because that doesn't make it work any better for me.  I've said this who knows how many times now but for some odd reason people just want to think what works for them works for everyone else.  I've read the advice and I'm taking that into consideration (which I've also said) and that should be plenty for people.

See, "on" and "in sleep mode" are completely different animals.  The PSP and DS both can last for a ridiculous amount of time in sleep mode with minimal battery loss.  And both of them can go in and out of sleep mode in a couple of seconds. 

If you want to be completely paranoid about battery life, that's your right, but I don't think your fears reflect reality in this case.  It's not that I'm saying that you're wrong to think the way you do (which you're not) in this exchange so much as I'm trying to understand how much time exactly you need the device to last and whether it's reasonable to think the PSP can't hack it with a good amount to spare. 

[edit:  At this point I'm just trying to determine it to my own satisfaction (since your mind is clearly made up for now) and if you don't care to spend the time posting about it anymore I can't say I'd really blame you.]

[edit2:  On the other hand, I wish you'd've let me know instead of just never responding.]



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DMeisterJ on 03 September 2008

http://www.pspfanboy.com/2008/09/03/sony-revises-battery-life-statement-says-brite-will-be-the-same/

/thread?

Battery life will be the same as the PSP2k.



twesterm on 03 September 2008
Final-Fan said:
twesterm said:
Final-Fan said:
[...] let's be clear:  I have never "carried the charger with me" except insofar as I took it on vacation and left it in the hotel room or in the car.  Even the DS can't last an entire 2 week vacation without needing to charge.

Do you honestly play your DS more than 5 hours a day on workdays?  If yes, what is the best way to get a job like yours?  As for being too lazy to take it home, I guess that might be a dealbreaker for you but to me it sounds pretty weak, so whatever.  At worst, I think, you would have to leave the PSP in sleep mode on the second day instead of playing it again like you could the DS.

I appreciate the fact that the PSP does not have the kind of battery life the DS does but, seriously, I think it's not so much that the PSP's is bad as it is that you've been spoiled by the DS.
Lets pretend I'm playing something like Professor Layton and the Curious Village and I have a map that takes me about 2-3 minutes to load and unload.  Both are fine assumptions since I Professor Layton is an awesome game and I'm dealing with production levels that can take time to load and unload everything in the editor.

I generally do one of these three things during those 2-3 minutes:

   1. Just sit there and stare blankly at the screen for 2-3 minutes
   2. Read news/forums
   3. Play my DS for 2-3 minutes

Assuming it's a day where I feel like doing number three and there' no convienent way to charge my DS while sitting at my desk (my power strip is pretty full), my DS will stay on and/or in sleep mode for at least 8 hours.  So yes, again, battery life is important to me.

Why do people have such a hard time believing that battery life is an important factor for me?  I don't give a flying fuck if you're happy with the battery life because that doesn't make it work any better for me.  I've said this who knows how many times now but for some odd reason people just want to think what works for them works for everyone else.  I've read the advice and I'm taking that into consideration (which I've also said) and that should be plenty for people.

See, "on" and "in sleep mode" are completely different animals.  The PSP and DS both can last for a ridiculous amount of time in sleep mode with minimal battery loss.  And both of them can go in and out of sleep mode in a couple of seconds. 

If you want to be completely paranoid about battery life, that's your right, but I don't think your fears reflect reality in this case.  It's not that I'm saying that you're wrong to think the way you do (which you're not) in this exchange so much as I'm trying to understand how much time exactly you need the device to last and whether it's reasonable to think the PSP can't hack it with a good amount to spare. 

[edit:  At this point I'm just trying to determine it to my own satisfaction (since your mind is clearly made up for now) and if you don't care to spend the time posting about it anymore I can't say I'd really blame you.]

[edit2:  On the other hand, I wish you'd've let me know instead of just never responding.]

 

It's not a case of not wanting to respond, it's me forgetting that threads exist.  :-p

I simply just like to go as long as possible without charging.  Sometimes I like to leave it at work all week, sometimes I take it home everyday.  I'm pretty random in what I like to do.

Anyways, looks like DMJ settled the thread.



 

ecurbj on 03 September 2008

This is so hilarious...twesterm did the same exact thread and everything when the PSP-2000 was just about to be released...lol