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swyggi on 27 August 2008

Now that I remember it, it even says that YK directed FF7 in the actualy game itself if you don't press any buttons when you first turn on the game. It's in that little prelude theme.



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Xen on 27 August 2008

@Soriku: I stand by my opinion. Sora's voice changed for the better between the 2 games. Too bad that the game was made for disney, IMO disney=crap. Game would've been 10x better with Square characters, final fantasy characters... it would be a true must buy for any FF fan... I can see myself fighting heartless with Squall and Vincent by my side.. and it looks much better than Goofy and Donald Duck. Disney characters should stay in their films, and gtfo out of games.

The game, as it looks today, with this general concept would probably still be made. Solely by square, no disney involvment.



StanGable on 27 August 2008

No. This merger is the stupidest thing ever because all that's needed is for Squaresoft to make a dumb mistake like FF the Movie and both will go bankrupt and its game over for Enix



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Riachu on 27 August 2008
Soriku said:
Xen said:
@Soriku:

My thoughts on KH1:

1. Sora's lines make me want to turn my console off.
2. Sora's voice makes me want to turn my console off.
3. I almost quit when I got to the Tarzanl level (very early in the game).
4. Terrible fighting system, I'd rather button mash than use it again.
5. Game shined during Hollow Bastion... and nowhere else.
6. Too much disney crap, not enough of your own stuff. It may have not been KH without disney, but without disney it would've been much less annoying.

Thoughs on KH2:
1. Sora is not annoying. Finally.
2. Disney characters are mostly "secondary". Thank god.
3. Fun combat system. Button mash if you wanna, I fight with finesse.
4. More mature - thank god.
5. A good artstyle. Great graphics... beautiful sky in Twilight Town.
6. Tron level.

I could go on. That won't stop KH2 being a 9 in my book, and KH1 a 5.5.


KH1:

1. wat. KH2 has similar lines.
2. wat. KH2 had similar lines.
3. That's when a lot of people happen to quit surprisingly...but after that the game gets A LOTbetter.
4. wat. The battle system was fun. It was actually more than...press X.
5. Lies. The other worlds were awesome. Fail, etc.
6. Too much Disney crap? Disney is not crap...and did you expect KH without DIsney influence when KH is a Disney owned IP? Heck, I'm sure it sells really well in the West BECAUSE it has Disney.

KH2:

1. See 1 and 2 in KH1.
2. DIsney characters aren't secondary. They're primary. Org XIII ARE Disney characters Sure, they got a good deal of focus, but Disney wasn't "secondary."
3. No.
4. Mature? lolz. Just by adding some characters with crazy hairstyles = mature? The Org XIII members didn't even say anyything like curses or whatever =/ They just look cool. But so do Riku, Ansem, etc.
5. Same art style as KH1, just improved graphics, which is obvious since it's a sequel...
6. OK.

5.5 for KH1? What is this blasphemy I'm hearing?

@SHMUP

Yes. Einhander = win. Surprisingly.

Cursing is not what he means by mature.  He means that the overall atmpsphere of KHII was darker than in KHI

 



 

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Xen on 27 August 2008
Riachu said:
Soriku said:
Xen said:
@Soriku:

My thoughts on KH1:

1. Sora's lines make me want to turn my console off.
2. Sora's voice makes me want to turn my console off.
3. I almost quit when I got to the Tarzanl level (very early in the game).
4. Terrible fighting system, I'd rather button mash than use it again.
5. Game shined during Hollow Bastion... and nowhere else.
6. Too much disney crap, not enough of your own stuff. It may have not been KH without disney, but without disney it would've been much less annoying.

Thoughs on KH2:
1. Sora is not annoying. Finally.
2. Disney characters are mostly "secondary". Thank god.
3. Fun combat system. Button mash if you wanna, I fight with finesse.
4. More mature - thank god.
5. A good artstyle. Great graphics... beautiful sky in Twilight Town.
6. Tron level.

I could go on. That won't stop KH2 being a 9 in my book, and KH1 a 5.5.


KH1:

1. wat. KH2 has similar lines.
2. wat. KH2 had similar lines.
3. That's when a lot of people happen to quit surprisingly...but after that the game gets A LOTbetter.
4. wat. The battle system was fun. It was actually more than...press X.
5. Lies. The other worlds were awesome. Fail, etc.
6. Too much Disney crap? Disney is not crap...and did you expect KH without DIsney influence when KH is a Disney owned IP? Heck, I'm sure it sells really well in the West BECAUSE it has Disney.

KH2:

1. See 1 and 2 in KH1.
2. DIsney characters aren't secondary. They're primary. Org XIII ARE Disney characters Sure, they got a good deal of focus, but Disney wasn't "secondary."
3. No.
4. Mature? lolz. Just by adding some characters with crazy hairstyles = mature? The Org XIII members didn't even say anyything like curses or whatever =/ They just look cool. But so do Riku, Ansem, etc.
5. Same art style as KH1, just improved graphics, which is obvious since it's a sequel...
6. OK.

5.5 for KH1? What is this blasphemy I'm hearing?

@SHMUP

Yes. Einhander = win. Surprisingly.

Cursing is not what he means by mature.  He means that the overall atmpsphere of KHII was darker than in KHI

 

Someone gets me >.<

 



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zexen_lowe on 27 August 2008
Riachu said:
zexen_lowe said:
Xen said:
^KH1 better in any way than 2? *laughs*

 

I agree completely. Kingdom Hearts is a bad game. Kingdom Hearts II is a fantastic one and better than KH1 in every possible way except in the opening theme

I personally loved both KH 1 and 2

 

I'm perfectly fine with that, I'm not saying that KH1 was a horrible uninspired mess (else I wouldn't love KH2), I'm saying that KH1 had too many problems:

-It had an awful camera, one of the worst I've ever seen. Fixed in KH2: You can control it with the right analog

-Awkward controls, I swear everytime Sora jumped I wanted to kill him. Fixed in KH2

-Bad party/Inventory management (lack of auto-refill, and general stupidity of Donald and Goofy). Fixed in KH2

-Unskippable cutscenes. Fixed in KH2

-Gummi Ship. Fixed in KH2

Then add to KH2 a more refined magic system, more depth (and fun) to the battle system, a great, more complex story (KH1 wasn't bad, but it wasn't good either), the Drive forms, and you got an excellent game. In many ways, KH2 is what KH1 should have been. Anyone who liked KH1, should love KH2. Anyone who didn't like KH1 for the reasons I stated should also love KH2

 




Obliterator1700 on 27 August 2008

Yes they were! Games by them suck now...I'll be honest.



ganondorf7799 on 27 August 2008

Short answer, yes



Riachu on 27 August 2008
Xen said:
Riachu said:
Soriku said:
Xen said:
@Soriku:

My thoughts on KH1:

1. Sora's lines make me want to turn my console off.
2. Sora's voice makes me want to turn my console off.
3. I almost quit when I got to the Tarzanl level (very early in the game).
4. Terrible fighting system, I'd rather button mash than use it again.
5. Game shined during Hollow Bastion... and nowhere else.
6. Too much disney crap, not enough of your own stuff. It may have not been KH without disney, but without disney it would've been much less annoying.

Thoughs on KH2:
1. Sora is not annoying. Finally.
2. Disney characters are mostly "secondary". Thank god.
3. Fun combat system. Button mash if you wanna, I fight with finesse.
4. More mature - thank god.
5. A good artstyle. Great graphics... beautiful sky in Twilight Town.
6. Tron level.

I could go on. That won't stop KH2 being a 9 in my book, and KH1 a 5.5.


KH1:

1. wat. KH2 has similar lines.
2. wat. KH2 had similar lines.
3. That's when a lot of people happen to quit surprisingly...but after that the game gets A LOTbetter.
4. wat. The battle system was fun. It was actually more than...press X.
5. Lies. The other worlds were awesome. Fail, etc.
6. Too much Disney crap? Disney is not crap...and did you expect KH without DIsney influence when KH is a Disney owned IP? Heck, I'm sure it sells really well in the West BECAUSE it has Disney.

KH2:

1. See 1 and 2 in KH1.
2. DIsney characters aren't secondary. They're primary. Org XIII ARE Disney characters Sure, they got a good deal of focus, but Disney wasn't "secondary."
3. No.
4. Mature? lolz. Just by adding some characters with crazy hairstyles = mature? The Org XIII members didn't even say anyything like curses or whatever =/ They just look cool. But so do Riku, Ansem, etc.
5. Same art style as KH1, just improved graphics, which is obvious since it's a sequel...
6. OK.

5.5 for KH1? What is this blasphemy I'm hearing?

@SHMUP

Yes. Einhander = win. Surprisingly.

Cursing is not what he means by mature. He means that the overall atmpsphere of KHII was darker than in KHI

 

Someone gets me >.<

 

@Soriku

I am taking a shot in the dark and saying that you still get the idea that blood + cursing=mature

 



 

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DTG on 27 August 2008

How can people claim the SNES Square games to be their golden age when the storylines of the SNES FF games don't even hold a candle to the more developed, polished and complex storylines of Square in the PS1 and 2 era? (Not that it means much consider outside Xenogears Square storylines have always been mediocre, but the SNES narratives were just...childish,)