with the new price 360 is getting , things will never be the same IMO

will sony produce a cheaper model of ps3?

no wi-fi, less usb ports and stuff like that?

and if that happens , would it help??

they already have their spin on it the 40 g model

never. it would make sony look like big fat hypocrites.

 lolz

they already there :P

^like they don't already?

If they just eliminated the HD, they could make it work I think, because people would then have the choice of a rather cheap HD of their own choice.

Don't know if they'd do it though.

 no

i mean much cheaper

299$ for example

No no no. PS3 needs HDD.

A X360 Arcade with no HDD was a terrible move by MS. People who are not into games buy the X360 Arcade. GTA IV suffered due to the HDD X360.

I see no future in the Arcade X360 which only accounts for 10% of X360 console sales.

Larger PS3 HDDs are needed and lots of people replace their 20GB, 40GB, 60GB and 80GB HDDs with HDDs up to 320GBs.

ok, it'll make them look like bigger and fatter hypocrites lol

No. The PS3 40Gb (now the 80Gb) model is the entry level system. They have already stated that they will not reduce the price this year. They are effectively giving you more for your money though.

$399 - 80Gb
$499 - 160Gb and $70 worth of games

I can see the 160Gb model replacing the 80Gb model next year, and I can also see the 80Gb model as well as a few games for $399 for Xmas...but Sony cannot reduce the costs at the moment. They are wanting to recoup some cash first and foremost and then they will reduce the price. There is no way that Sony could effectively half the cost with a new SKU. They cannot remove BluRay and cannot effectively remove WiFi. I fully expect the consumer to get more for their money rather than get the unit for less money.

So maybe see a 80Gb games pack for Xmas for the basic $399 with a 80Gb unit, maybe an extra dualshock as well as a few games.