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Kwaad said:

I have a dislike for Nintendo as of lately, because their buisness model, has been based around makeing money, and not around makeing great games. Their going away from great games, to mini-games, and things my 4 year old family members would have fun with. I played Final Fantasy 4 when I was 8. I want to see stuff 2x more advanced, and yet, that stuff dont exist today. Nintendo, is makeing stuff 8x simpler.

Sony is makeing stuff similar in terms of complexity. Now I'm not saying sony is god, and they make amazing games every time. They dont.

I am probibally gonna buy a 2000$ sony camcorder here in 6months to a year. I've never had a problem with a sony product and from what I've read, their not that hard to work with.

 

Those of you sony haters out there. I really dont understand why you hate sony as a whole. Especially considering the major changes they have been going through over the last 12 months, and more are coming. Their a totally new entity almost.


 Sorry if you don't really understand why things are simpler. It's a pretty easy concept, its just harder to grasp from a gamers perspective. What's the best way to get people who may not be familliar with your product or 'frightened' by the stigmas attached to it? Make it easily accessible. Simple, accessible, readily understandable to those who aren't used to gaming. Good for you if you played FF4 when you were 8... what about those people who were 20 then? What about those who couldn't afford a system then? Or who are just now getting interested in technology? In all honesty, if you stuck a kid in front of something like a Ninja Gaiden from back in the day, with areas and jumps so frustrating it makes you want to pull your hair out, he could probably handle it. Introduce a new gamer to the scene with something like that, and you'll effectively ruin the experience for them. This doesn't apply to every person, no doubt, but for the general populace that's more or less the case.

If you're just starting out in something, anything, most people do not lunge headlong into the most complex thing they can find. It doesn't work that way. So while the 360 and the PS3 are trying to cater to those gamers who have done nothing but play games for decades, Nintendo is reaching out to get more people into the fold. While that might not appeal to you, as a whole it will improve the market. Why? Fresh sources of money, and the cultivation of a fresh group of gamers (or potential gamers.) If you want to believe that Nintendo is only making mini-games, go nuts. Just don't be surprised when all the other gamers are actually playing real games on their Nintendo consoles. (Shock!)

I myself don't have any problem with the PS3, more the foolishness of the Sony PR machine before the system came out, and the people who thought that 600 dollars was a good price point to launch a console at. Games are games, there are going to be games I enjoy that other people will complain about, cry about, whatever. Maybe one day some people will learn how to take life in stride and enjoy what they have while they have it, and have fun with whatever system or whatever games they enjoy, defend them, but have no need to start baseless arguements. If I had the money, I'd own all three systems, just so I could pick and choose titles from them all. Right now, I have none of them.

There's always a better way to look at things. Would you rather be playing a game on your favorite system, enjoying it and having fun with it, or be shot in the face because of the color of your skin? Or the religious customs you believe in? While it might not be the most desirable thing in the world to think of, sometimes you need to look at the bigger picture and be thankful that you even have a video game to enjoy.



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It's the trendy thing to do now: Hate on Sony. Join the crowd, kick Sony while it's down.

People like winners so suddenly Nintendo can do no wrong even though like 3 years ago, the company was in terrible shape.

That's for the masses, but a lot of the people on this site are Nintendo fanatics. Miyamoto is their god and anything Nintendo makes or is made on a Nintendo console is good while everything else is either bad or unoriginal or whatever...

You can see that from the game ratings: Resident Evil 4 on GC and Wii is rated very very high, but the same game on PS2 is rated shit.

They won't even play anything on other consoles even if they wanted it because it's not on a Nintendo machine. So they automatically crap on it. Soul Calibur IV not coming to Wii? It's shit now.

God of War = mindless repetitive button maching, Project Hammer = innovative action.

Pay 50 bucks to do some brain teasers = good price.

Mario Party 8, same game with Wii controls tacked on now = great.

Red Steal = amazing. Why? Because it's on the Wii.

Why are MS and Sony adding online stuff to their consoles? But when Nintendo adds a weather channel and a news channel (cause you can't watch the television) it's great.

And so on and so forth.

 



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I dislike all the gaming companies... each one has their own problem. Microsoft for charging online, Sony for being arrogant, and Nintendo for releasing an overpriced system with overpriced mini-game compilations.



I gotta laugh at the people that think $400 is an unfair price. granted, I won''t pay that for a 360, but for a PS3 that'd be perfect. Really, $300 doesn't go as fas as when the PS1 was launched at that price. Likewise for the PS2's $300. Hell, buy some groceries (I know a lot of people here aren't old enough that they have to) and you'll see that lemons cost 50% more than two years ago and candy bars are up 15% etc. Today, $400 for a game system is pretty damn good, most people just can't see that because they look at how things were in the past and think thats how they're still suposed to be.



You do not have the right to never be offended.

I'll admit it, I hate Sony :)

I hate them for taking the easy way to please people: Violent games, gangster games, unimaginative games. Really, among the top selling PS2 games there's hardly one I'd like to play. BTW, on the 360: NOT A SINGLE ONE.

Now, before you scream "fanboy": What am I supposed to do, play games I'm not interested in? To me, all the ShadowHaloHalfFarLifeCryQuakeDoomTheftManBioGearsHunt are more or less the same. Games with heavily armored soldiers on their covers bore me to death.

So that's basically it: I think the "Sony decade" has changed gaming for the worse. Plus the Blu-Ray-thing, the arrogance, the tech-specs-over-gameplay-thing. And had they succeeded in killing Nintendo some years ago, I'd been sooo mad.



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Cursayer2 said:
I dislike all the gaming companies... each one has their own problem. Microsoft for charging online, Sony for being arrogant, and Nintendo for releasing an overpriced system with overpriced mini-game compilations.

That pretty much sums up my complaints with the big three.

 




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ElRhodeo said:
I'll admit it, I hate Sony :)

I hate them for taking the easy way to please people: Violent games, gangster games, unimaginative games. Really, among the top selling PS2 games there's hardly one I'd like to play. BTW, on the 360: NOT A SINGLE ONE.

Now, before you scream "fanboy": What am I supposed to do, play games I'm not interested in? To me, all the ShadowHaloHalfFarLifeCryQuakeDoomTheftManBioGearsHunt are more or less the same. Games with heavily armored soldiers on their covers bore me to death.

So that's basically it: I think the "Sony decade" has changed gaming for the worse. Plus the Blu-Ray-thing, the arrogance, the tech-specs-over-gameplay-thing. And had they succeeded in killing Nintendo some years ago, I'd been sooo mad.

Again, the same BS. The easy way is making a Pokemon game and remaking it every two years as new colors while the game is barely changing and looks like a game from the GBA on the DS.

Violent games? Of course if you totally ignore all the non-violent ones you will only see the violent.

I like how people assume making violent games is the easy way while everyone knows kid friendly stuff sells a lot better usually, be it movies or games or anything else.

All the shooters are the same, yet Mario is the same game for 10 years so is Zelda but that's great that it's the same.



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ChichiriMuyo said:
I gotta laugh at the people that think $400 is an unfair price. granted, I won''t pay that for a 360, but for a PS3 that'd be perfect. Really, $300 doesn't go as fas as when the PS1 was launched at that price. Likewise for the PS2's $300. Hell, buy some groceries (I know a lot of people here aren't old enough that they have to) and you'll see that lemons cost 50% more than two years ago and candy bars are up 15% etc. Today, $400 for a game system is pretty damn good, most people just can't see that because they look at how things were in the past and think thats how they're still suposed to be.

 You're also ignoring the price of the PS3 with a Blu Ray player versus a stand alone Blu Ray player which is almost the same.



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Since most gamers don't have a great need for Blu-Ray I don't think it's worth mentioning. It only adds value to the system from my perspective because it advances storage mediums (DVDs have become too small for my archiving needs) and that doesn't mean added value to the PS3 itself for me. The lack of disc switching in big games it nice I suppose, but I don't buy DVD movies and I wouldn't buy Blu-Ray ones either. So, really, it could be (and was) cheaper than a BR player and it doens't matter much.



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ckmlb said:
ElRhodeo said:
I'll admit it, I hate Sony :)

I hate them for taking the easy way to please people: Violent games, gangster games, unimaginative games. Really, among the top selling PS2 games there's hardly one I'd like to play. BTW, on the 360: NOT A SINGLE ONE.

Now, before you scream "fanboy": What am I supposed to do, play games I'm not interested in? To me, all the ShadowHaloHalfFarLifeCryQuakeDoomTheftManBioGearsHunt are more or less the same. Games with heavily armored soldiers on their covers bore me to death.

So that's basically it: I think the "Sony decade" has changed gaming for the worse. Plus the Blu-Ray-thing, the arrogance, the tech-specs-over-gameplay-thing. And had they succeeded in killing Nintendo some years ago, I'd been sooo mad.

Again, the same BS. The easy way is making a Pokemon game and remaking it every two years as new colors while the game is barely changing and looks like a game from the GBA on the DS.

Violent games? Of course if you totally ignore all the non-violent ones you will only see the violent.

I like how people assume making violent games is the easy way while everyone knows kid friendly stuff sells a lot better usually, be it movies or games or anything else.

All the shooters are the same, yet Mario is the same game for 10 years so is Zelda but that's great that it's the same.


Well, take the 360 bestsellers list, for example: 11 shooters, 2 racers, Guitar Hero, Fight Night, Oblivion. Nothing I'd wanna play. And by far the biggest part of them is violent. 

And I never said I love all Nintendo games. I am no fanboy, I'll admit freely that I didn't buy a Wii so far because there's not enough games for me.

You say kid-friendly stuff sells better? So that's the reason why EVERY SINGLE GTA outsold Ocarina of time 2:1, I see. 



Currently playing: NSMB (Wii) 

Waiting for: Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Wii), The Last Story (Wii), Golden Sun (DS), Portal 2 (Wii? or OSX), Metroid: Other M (Wii), 
... and of course Zelda (Wii)