If Sony sticks to the 10-year lifecycle and the hardware sells they can make a good profit.
If Sony sticks to the 10-year lifecycle and the hardware sells they can make a good profit.
HappySqurriel said:
What a mature response to an obvious observation and a valid point from another companies executive ... |
The guy obviousley thinks he's a genius.
ROFLOL...gee, that's pretty obivious...the attempt to have a blew-ray explosion to counter the heavy cost of the PS3 hasn't materialized, and time isn't on Sony's side...sure, unit cost will go down, but so will the per unit price to customer, in order to stay competitive, which jsut simply get's sony back to square one...loosing money. Nintendo will launch their new console as will M$, and sony will still be working on that 10-year plan.
it is depend on the person who will wan to buy a 720, 1080, 1440.... and so on still with DVD build in every 3 or 4 years.
| Jason77 said: it is depend on the person who will wan to buy a 720, 1080, 1440.... and so on every 3 or 4 years. |
If the "720" was going to be released 3 to 4 years after the XBox 360 was we would already know about it because it would be released between November 2008 and November 2009; a much more realistic estimate for the next system from Microsoft would be 5 to 6 years after the release of the XBox 360, which would put the release of the "720" between November 2010 and November 2011. Surprisingly enough, the expected release of the "PS4" will (also) be about 5 to 6 years after the PS3 was released much like the PS3 was released (roughly) 5 to 6 years after the PS2 was released, and the PS2 was released (roughly) 5 to 6 years after the Playstation was released.
noname2200 said:
Certainly, and I apologize for not doing so sooner. I won't be able to give you all the sources, since many of them are in print or were read by me quite a while ago, but here's one from last year that I scrounged up fairly quickly. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/309852_software02.html
Here's a sample for Q2 2008 (Q1 was good, and obviously, the full-year report isn't complete, and won't be until April 2009). http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=179255 Other recent reports have been fairly negative. The Wall Street Journal and my local paper, the Mercury News, routinely post pessimistic stories about Microsoft's outlook (although the latter is a Silicon Valley paper, so some bias towards the locals should be expected). There are others that I can scrounge up, if given more time. Again though, I want to reiterate that Microsoft isn't going down anytime soon. However, they are slipping from their high, and there's investor pressure on them to find their focus again. How Microsoft will respond remains to be seen, but I think the Yahoo! situation is a strong indicator: right now Balmer prefers to buy their way into a market, rather than start from the grass roots and grow from there. But I'm getting off-topic here, so...enjoy the links? |
No disrespect, you're a History major. I'm a business major. We should stick with what we know. You're showing us a graph of cash and short term investments, not net income. Cash and short term investments are used to judge liquidity, not profitability.
What's more the graph even mentions why microsofts cash and STI were low, they were repurchasing their own stock. I'm certain you don't know what this means or else you wouldn't be citing this graph and saying MS is losing money. They repurchase it because the companies believe its stock is undervalued, basically a good sign to investors.
I hope you didn't base your entire arguement on that one graph. 2004 was year microsoft paid the largest dividend (ever if i remember correctly) of 3.5 billion because they could not do anything with their huge cash reserves. They didn't lose 30 billion like you claimed in an earlier post. They used that money to pay the dividend and repurchase stocks.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmafp/is_200407/ai_n6848591

Microsoft's Annual Net Income (profit not revenue)
1996 $2195 million
1997 $3454
1998 $4490
1999 $7785
2000 $9421
2001 $7346
2002 $5355
2003 $7531
2004 $8468
2005 $12254
2006 $12599
2007 $14065
Taken directly from financial statements. You're welcome to verify, they're in their website. http://www.microsoft.com/msft/default.mspx

| DMeisterJ said: So what about when they start selling it at cost, or at a gain? |
Negative Sales.
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dave perry is a prick, i remeber him from the megadrive days, he made alladin on megadrive then gimped out.
how the hell does he know that ps3 wont make any money lol what an idiot
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HappySqurriel said:
I just want to know why everyone thinks "Blu-Ray" is some sort of super money maker for Sony? Of all costs associated with Blu-Ray players and discs, the licencing fees on most formats have never been that large of a portion of the total costs; and there are hundreds of companies who get a cut for this due to their involvement with the Blu-Ray consortium, or the technology that is licenced to produce the Blu-Ray format. On top of this, Sony and other companies have had fairly large expenses in order to make Blu-Ray as successful as it currently is ... The hundreds of millions of dollars that were paid in order to get studios to become Blu-Ray exclusive mainly came out of the pocket of a couple of companies (including Sony).
The reason companies like Sony push formats like Blu-Ray has nothing to do with the money they make (directly) from Blu-Ray. The reason they push it is because a new format provides a need for new hardware (like Televisions and surround sound systems), and encourages people to re-buy the same movies they already own ... |
Wrong, there are alot of companies that get tiny returns on bluray profitability but here are 18 companies that can really profit alot directly from sales of BluRay technology. Sony gets by far the most being that they championed the product. The actual forecast for BluRay DVD sales alone for next year are in the billions (maybe 2-3) and will multiply dramatically years down the road if the format stays on track. With that being said, Sony gets roughly 25-30% of that pie... While BluRay can be used as a horse to sell high def displays and audio, the bulk of the profits will come from royalties off disk sales. And when i mean disk sales, I'm talking about new releases, not rebuys of the same movies people already own.