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I know it's fun to argue with the super rightwing people... but any response to my facts taken directly from the candidates campaign websites and what they've said in debates?

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megaman79 said:
Sqrl said:
megaman79 said:
Sqrl said:

He wants a draft? Link? He refused to apologize for calling someone a gook? Link? He "made it clear" he wants a war with Iran? Link? He sold out to the religious right? Examples? Links? He is in 100% agreement with Bush on every issue? Link?

You've posted a mountain of FUD and backed up none of it.

You mean like Fox News? Is that what you mean

 

 

What does that even have to do with this discussion? Are you so incapable of engaging in a discussion on merits that you have to resort to unrelated canned responses?

Either stay on the topic or don't post in this thread.

 

Dont attack people because they don't have evidence. If you actually watch the news you would be well aware of McCains stance on Iran, the draft and his agreement with Bush's policies.

I didn't attack anyone.  I asked him to support his position with some facts, simply stating "Oh well if you watched the news you would know!" is not an argument..its a cop-out and and admission that you're either to lazy to make your point or you already know you can't.

These made up stories are exactly that..made up.   There are plenty of good reasons to not vote for Obama and McCain but these kinds of ridiculously baseless attacks are not among them.

 

 



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Sansui said:
MrBubbles said:
Sansui said:
megaman79 said:
luinil said:
McCain's stance on Iran is what any reasonable person's stance should be. They are a grave threat to the stability of the region and will likely cause another war with all their saber-rattling and threats. You have to live in a freaking bubble to think that you can avoid war. It is inevitable, though that is regrettable.

 

What's regrettable is that you believe it is inevitable

 

 

Excellent, excellent observation.

Iran's 'grave threat' in that regions seems all the 'graver' when the Republican media keeps saying it.  But you know, Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction right?  I mean, the Republicans told us so.  So we HAD to take down Iraq too right? It was inevitable?

Don't get me wrong, Saddamn was an evil, horrible man, but we seriously screwed the pooch by invading Iraq.  I'm not letting the Republicans trick me into voting out of fear again.  They have an excellent track record of being completely wrong.

 

If your congress pledged to create a chaotic world...would you think they were dangerous?

Contribute some real discussion and or arguments or stop making cryptic statements.

 

 

the iranian parliament did that.



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Sqrl said:
megaman79 said:
Sqrl said:
megaman79 said:
Sqrl said:

He wants a draft? Link? He refused to apologize for calling someone a gook? Link? He "made it clear" he wants a war with Iran? Link? He sold out to the religious right? Examples? Links? He is in 100% agreement with Bush on every issue? Link?

You've posted a mountain of FUD and backed up none of it.

You mean like Fox News? Is that what you mean

 

 

What does that even have to do with this discussion? Are you so incapable of engaging in a discussion on merits that you have to resort to unrelated canned responses?

Either stay on the topic or don't post in this thread.

 

Dont attack people because they don't have evidence. If you actually watch the news you would be well aware of McCains stance on Iran, the draft and his agreement with Bush's policies.

I didn't attack anyone.  I asked him to support his position with some facts, simply stating "Oh well if you watched the news you would know!" is not an argument..its a cop-out and and admission that you're either to lazy to make your point or you already know you can't.

These made up stories are exactly that..made up.   There are plenty of good reasons to not vote for Obama and McCain but these kinds of ridiculously baseless attacks are not among them.

 

 

Hey.  I responded to you directly.  Don't respond indirectly to the guy that was defending me, in order to say that my references were made up.

 



McCain is going to win trust me, we in the U.S have no in.. (let me not say anything bad)

Heres something, Bush beat Al gore, Al gore won the noble peace price, bush is killing the united states financially.

What do you guys think?



 

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What? McCain isn't the president yet?

No one in my family votes...There's a reason for it.



leo-j said:
McCain is going to win trust me, we in the U.S have no in.. (let me not say anything bad)

Heres something, Bush beat Al gore, Al gore won the noble peace price, bush is killing the united states financially.

What do you guys think?

Lolz. That is what I think. Just lolz.



leo-j said:
McCain is going to win trust me, we in the U.S have no in.. (let me not say anything bad)

Heres something, Bush beat Al gore, Al gore won the noble peace price, bush is killing the united states financially.

What do you guys think?

I have a bad feeling that McCain will win, and do it using Karl Rove's playbook.  I mean shit, I fell for it in 2000.... I voted for Bush back then.  I vote on character and issues, not party lines, and in 2000 the media had me convinced that Bush was a better man than Gore.  I really kick myself for that now.

Ever since then I've made damn sure I've thoroughly researched anyone I've voted for, whether its congressman or president.  Go Obama.

 



Sansui said:
leo-j said:
McCain is going to win trust me, we in the U.S have no in.. (let me not say anything bad)

Heres something, Bush beat Al gore, Al gore won the noble peace price, bush is killing the united states financially.

What do you guys think?

I have a bad feeling that McCain will win, and do it using Karl Rove's playbook. I mean shit, I fell for it in 2000.... I voted for Bush back then. I vote on character and issues, not party lines, and in 2000 the media had me convinced that Bush was a better man than Gore. I really kick myself for that now.

Ever since then I've made damn sure I've thoroughly researched anyone I've voted for, whether its congressman or president. Go Obama.

 

Yet you totally ignored my very valid points in this thread to argue with someone else over something pointless.

If you vote on the issues why do you ignore them?

If you really followed the issues and listened to what each candidate has said about their own plans you'd see how things were. McCain is nowhere near a second Bush and both candidates are shockingly similar outside of a few issues. Most of the ones i listed.

Both candidates have strong points and weak points.



McCain is another Bush type logic has the same credibility as Obama being a secret Muslim. Its ridiculous, and if you find yourself believing it, well you are just as bad as the people criticising Obama for his childhood and name.



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