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Bitmap Frogs said:
Resident_Hazard said:
HappySqurriel said:
 

 

 

Essentially, upscaling is the way the Xbox360 supports 1080.  Sony went ahead and announced that the PS3 was the only console capable of 1080 resolution, and then MS did a firmware update and said, "hey, so do we."  In reality, the Xbox360's firmware update allows for up-scaling to 1080, not "true" 1080 which I believe is hardware-related, not firmware/software related.  The PS3 is the only system that does actual "true" 1080, but in a vast number of the early games, it wasn't used, but the PS3 had the ability to, shall we say, streamline those titles to look more 1080-ish.

 

That's a lie. Several 360 games run natively at 1080p. Virtua Tennis 3, some NBA game, etc are just examples. You'd wish the ps3 had some innate capabilities differentiating it from the rest of the pack, but it doesn't besides the blue-ray disc drive.

BTW, both Lair and GT5 render below 1080p. You can check quartz's thread at B3D to check for yourself. The only true 1080p games on the ps3 are the same kind as on the 360: games with simpler/less complex environments and smaller amount of models on screen at once - tennis games, basket games, 2d oddities like flow...

Hazard, you need to learn a bit about tech stuff... Nintendo doesn't need to support an external scaler, it just works off the console's output.

And thus marks the first occasion ever where it's been hinted that I may be a Sony fanboy over MS. 

At least I've covered all bases.

I've been called a Nintendo fanboy, a Microsoft fanboy, a Sony hater, and a allusion made that I may be a Sony fanboy. 

 

I've never claimed I'm an expert at tech stuff, just going by articles I've come across, typically from IGN or GameSpot, over the years.  The last thing I read about the Xbox360 and 1080 was that it only upscaled to 1080 using software rather than being able to natively run in that resolution.  I am, after all, about the only person on the internet to regularly admit when I may be wrong.  To be quite frank, I don't care whether or not it can display in 1080 since the difference between that and 720 are miniscule and to the average shmoe (like me when you consider hardcore tech stuff), the difference hardly matters.  I'm not made of money anyway, I still use my old analog Sharp for gaming.  Also, I have a transmission that needs replacing in my Blazer.

 



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I love threads like this. The problem is, they are usually started by someone that already has a heavy bias and that bias comes out pretty clearly in their assessment.

The next Xbox will come out either '10 or '11 (that's a 5-6 year gap which is seems to be the industry standard). With the rumored price drops, I think Microsoft is gearing up for '10. The PS3 will try to stretch for 6 years due to a need to recoup some of the heavy losses caused by the system and its late bloom. The only reason I think Nintendo might come out with something in '11 (5 years) instead of '12 (6 years) is the limited DLC ability of the Wii. Games that Wii owners would love to play that have lots of DLC, the music games, are very limited on that system. An external hard drive might help, but Nintendo really does need something with an internal hard drive. Given their strategy of not swinging for the graphic fences, I think they can still keep the costs down and have an HD capable Wii successor that still falls within $250 to $300.

I give this thread a 9.4.



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2012 would be the start of the next generation.



2012 id say



 nintendo fanboy, but the good kind

proud soldier of nintopia

 

@KZ2 & woopah

I suppose you have some reasoning as to why all the players involved would choose this generation to break the 5-6 year gap between generations?

I give those posts 9.3s.



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The next console generation does not start until the launch of the next PS console. PS4 launches in 2012 that is the start of the next console generation. Nintendo would probably launch at the same time or a year after the PS4.



KZ2 said:

The next console generation does not start until the launch of the next PS console. PS4 launches in 2012 that is the start of the next console generation. Nintendo would probably launch at the same time or a year after the PS4.

 

Hahah, ok, I was expecting something other than fanboy drivel.  Thanks for answering, I guess.

I give that post a 9.0.



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Nobody will be able to put together hardware that is reasonably better than PS3 by 2010? That's absurd!



Resident_Hazard said:

 

I think Sony's days of crafting a do-all super processor may be over.  The Emotion Engine was successful, but early on, developers complained about difficulties in using it.  Complaints like that are still logged to the PS3's Cell, but the success isn't booming.  In theory, the Cell should be able to blow the Xbox360 out of the water--but it could turn into one of those Sega Saturn/N64 debacles where the generally low system popularity coupled with complicated technical structure prevents everyone but the most dedicated internal (1st or 2nd party) teams from fully utilizing the technology.

It's just too easy to build a game for the Xbox360 and simply port it to the PS3 rather than trying to optimize for the Cell and then restructure a game for Xbox360 use.  Developers always go the cheaper route.  It was easier to develop for the weaker PS2 and just port games to the Xbox and GameCube, and that's pretty much what everybody did last time.  Which is why seeing games that properly utilized those machines were few and far between and almost always 1st or 2nd party titles.

 

Saying the Cell can blow the 360's main processor out of the water completely ignores the GPU.  In the end, neither is significantly better than the other.

 



afree_account said:
Nobody will be able to put together hardware that is reasonably better than PS3 by 2010? That's absurd!

 

What's more absurd is that people keep posting everyday... :(



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