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I think Sony has successful tampered 360's dominance of FPS/TPS.

Unfortunately I think Microsoft has effectively tampered Playstations dominance of all other core genres (RPG, Sports, Racing, Music) and Nintendo all but stolen the rest.

So while it might have been effective, the overall strategy is questionable.



 

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danielhiru said:

I think the reason that MS has focused on Jrps is them trying to make progress in there hardest market (Japan), same thing can be said about Sony, they are going big on FPSs since the ps3 needs to make the most progress in America, another game to put in the OPs post would be Bioshock wich is a nice addition to the PS3 only owners that have yet to play this awesome FPS.

 

 

 I would have included Bioshock and CoD 4, but I wanted to keep the list to exclusives. I wanted to list games that only the PS3 had relative to the other consoles.



jman8 said:
De85 said:
I just find it slightly ironic that last year the 306 was belittled for having nothing but shooters, but that now, with sole exception of LBP, the games you hear PS3 fans hyping up are all shooters. Resistance 2, Killzone 2, SOCOM: Confrontation, MAG, etc... My how the tables have turned.

Those are the games you're choosing to hype. Sony fans have actually been hyping LittleBigPlanet, Infamous, Valkyria Chronicles, God of War, Gran Turismo, MotorStorm: Pacific Rift, Final Fantasy XIII, and Final Fantasy Versus XIII as well.

Edit: I didn't even mention the hugely hyped PSN titles like Flower, Pixeljunk Eden, and Fat Princess.

 

First off, I mentioned LBP as the exception, but in my own, anecdotal experience all the rest of those games you mentioned take a backseat whenever people talk about Sony's upcoming games.  I know those other games exist, but they aren't talked about nearly as much.



Yeah, the shooter gambit is successful, as in America, shooters sell awesome, and that's where PS3 needs the most work.



FPS is a genre that's dying for reinvention!

The standards of that genre needs some serious direction, the basics are so basic that it's over compensating in one field out of fear that complexity is a bad thing.

Even then FPS's are complex...

There are actually several kinds of FPS's if you evaluate each you can find that they are appreciated relative to these differences.

The two poles are:
Frag and Stealth

Each has to be approached differently inorder to be reinvented instead of refined.



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De85 said:
jman8 said:
De85 said:
I just find it slightly ironic that last year the 306 was belittled for having nothing but shooters, but that now, with sole exception of LBP, the games you hear PS3 fans hyping up are all shooters. Resistance 2, Killzone 2, SOCOM: Confrontation, MAG, etc... My how the tables have turned.

Those are the games you're choosing to hype. Sony fans have actually been hyping LittleBigPlanet, Infamous, Valkyria Chronicles, God of War, Gran Turismo, MotorStorm: Pacific Rift, Final Fantasy XIII, and Final Fantasy Versus XIII as well.

Edit: I didn't even mention the hugely hyped PSN titles like Flower, Pixeljunk Eden, and Fat Princess.

 

First off, I mentioned LBP as the exception, but in my own, anecdotal experience all the rest of those games you mentioned take a backseat whenever people talk about Sony's upcoming games.  I know those other games exist, but they aren't talked about nearly as much.

Thats because Games like Gran Turismo, FFXIII and God of War will sell well regardless if people are talking about them or not

 



I guess that would depend on how much mitigation you consider worthy of notice. Technically having a single game in this genre does have a degree of mitigation. In much the same way that if I were to inherit five thousand dollars it would mitigate the economic difference between me and a millionaire. Basically it is a very soft word with little to no meaning unless you apply some kind of hard scale.

I would say mitigate yes, but not by as much as you would imagine. The 360 still has more AAA titles, and definitely more titles that scale over eighty percent. The difference is basically that the PS3 isn't as barren as it once was, but the PS3 library is still no substitute for the 360s library. This was bound to happen all along it would I mean its not like the PS3 wasn't going to get some shooters.

Now will the PS3 greatly mitigate the advantage this year. Probably not Microsoft has an answer for Resistance in Gears, and as was noted Haze was an utter failure. MAG and Killzone 2 will arrive next year, but it is possible that Huxley will be the 360s answer to the former, and Microsoft still has two powerful shooter franchises in play for the latter. So I do not see the PS3 launching ahead in any fashion.

I would also say that Resistance isn't so much the success that others make it out to be. Remember this was a launch title for a console that had a pathetic launch year library. So you have to take the sales into consideration. Even Red Steel topped a million on the Wii, and that title had an average score of 63 according to Metacritic. In other words do not use the exception as a rule for expectations. According to this site The Orange Box panned on the PS3, and that title actually averaged three points higher on Metacritic. This in the middle of October when the console had a larger install base, and a better lower price.



yup,sony's done a good job takin away the 360's dominance with shooters, but unfortunately, they are forgetting a bit about the other games.



                 


 

De85 said:
jman8 said:
De85 said:
I just find it slightly ironic that last year the 306 was belittled for having nothing but shooters, but that now, with sole exception of LBP, the games you hear PS3 fans hyping up are all shooters. Resistance 2, Killzone 2, SOCOM: Confrontation, MAG, etc... My how the tables have turned.

Those are the games you're choosing to hype. Sony fans have actually been hyping LittleBigPlanet, Infamous, Valkyria Chronicles, God of War, Gran Turismo, MotorStorm: Pacific Rift, Final Fantasy XIII, and Final Fantasy Versus XIII as well.

Edit: I didn't even mention the hugely hyped PSN titles like Flower, Pixeljunk Eden, and Fat Princess.

 

First off, I mentioned LBP as the exception, but in my own, anecdotal experience all the rest of those games you mentioned take a backseat whenever people talk about Sony's upcoming games.  I know those other games exist, but they aren't talked about nearly as much.

 

Well, anecdotally, there's an active Motorstorm discussion going on right now on these very forums. It's also rare that we don't have a thread showing new screen shots of FFXIII or FFvXIII nearly weekly. There's also an "Official" Valkyria Chronicles hype thread that has over 200 posts. There's a Kratos vs Link discussion going on right now. Oh and I forgot to mention Heavy Rain, which has been on every PS fanboy hype list to ever reach the interwebs, and whatever Team Ico is working on.

And just b/c you mentioned LBP, doesn't mean its impact is minimized even though that was your goal. Without LBP, all Sony would have is a highly derivative line-up this fall with Resistance, Motorstorm, and Socom. It's like launch all over again. But you rarely see people complain about that and it's not b/c this site is PS biased. It's b/c LBP is such an innovative title that is taking videogames to such new territory that you would look silly to call out Sony for not being original. This "sole" game is what is differentiating the system from all the others. This "sole" game is what is feeding the perception that Sony is ahead of the curve, while MS is just trying to match the Playstations' previous catalogues.  



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Shadow of the Colossus, Metal Gear Solid 3, Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia, Chrono Trigger

My 2 nex-gen systems: PS3 and Wii

Prediction Aug '08: We see the PSP2 released fall '09. Graphically, it's basically the same as the current system. UMD drive ditched and replaced by 4-8gb on board flash memory. Other upgrades: 2nd analog nub, touchscreen, blutooth, motion sensor. Design: Flip-style or slider. Size: Think Iphone. Cost: $199. Will be profitable on day 1.

SONY has 4 shooters in development and yet we're calling it the shooter orientated console???



4 ≈ One