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he said doomsays eat crow.... a stupid saying like that is bound to be attacked, as it is.



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

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http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/20/sources-xbox-360-price-cut-week-of-sept-7-60gb-299-elite-3/

Here's some more crow for you. That's not going to help the PS3 this holiday season.





"nice sentiment, and I do agree that Sony have dealt with (most of) the original problems.
However the fact remains that while MS and Sony duke it out over small points of one-upmanship, Ninty is just sitting back and hoovering up the profits."


Of course the problem with Ninty is that have totally forgotten how to make good games and are now trying to get by on brand name alone. They had a disastrous E3, their outing in Leipzig hasn't been any more impressive. And people aren't going to continue to buy the the Wii for the types of games that they've decided to put on the market in recent months. Mediocre reviews for Animal Crossing and Wii Music during the holidays combined with rave reviews for Little Big Planet and Resistance 2 would start to generate steam for the PS3 and with the possibility of a $299.99 PS3 on the market with Blu-Ray and a 40 GB hard drive, and you have a situation where the PS3 could begin to dominate in all territories the way the Wii has been doing so far. At any rate, Nintendo is going to have to cut the price of the Wii and make sure that they have a steady supply of units in the stores to compete with a $199.99 360 and a $299.99 PS3 ($250.00 if Sony decides to release a hard drive optional version).

My most anticipated games:  Whatever Hideo Kojima is going to do next, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Wii Sports Resort.  Cave Story Wiiware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqLMgbtrB8

PS3's on the rise from dead last to distant last! PS3 fans rejoice all over one thread!



Paul_Warren said:

"nice sentiment, and I do agree that Sony have dealt with (most of) the original problems.
However the fact remains that while MS and Sony duke it out over small points of one-upmanship, Ninty is just sitting back and hoovering up the profits."


Of course the problem with Ninty is that have totally forgotten how to make good games and are now trying to get by on brand name alone. They had a disastrous E3, their outing in Leipzig hasn't been any more impressive. And people aren't going to continue to buy the the Wii for the types of games that they've decided to put on the market in recent months. Mediocre reviews for Animal Crossing and Wii Music during the holidays combined with rave reviews for Little Big Planet and Resistance 2 would start to generate steam for the PS3 and with the possibility of a $299.99 PS3 on the market with Blu-Ray and a 40 GB hard drive, and you have a situation where the PS3 could begin to dominate in all territories the way the Wii has been doing so far. At any rate, Nintendo is going to have to cut the price of the Wii and make sure that they have a steady supply of units in the stores to compete with a $199.99 360 and a $299.99 PS3 ($250.00 if Sony decides to release a hard drive optional version).

 

Rave reviews for exclusive games don't affect console sales.  GameCube has several of the highest rated video games of all time, and it was smoked by the uber-casual PS2.

Nintendo learned from their mistakes and Sony's successes.  Every success Sony had somehow made them dumber.

And those prices aren't going to happen.  Sony can't afford to lose more money faster than they are now.

 

 



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Paul_Warren said:

"nice sentiment, and I do agree that Sony have dealt with (most of) the original problems.
However the fact remains that while MS and Sony duke it out over small points of one-upmanship, Ninty is just sitting back and hoovering up the profits."


Of course the problem with Ninty is that have totally forgotten how to make good games and are now trying to get by on brand name alone. They had a disastrous E3, their outing in Leipzig hasn't been any more impressive. And people aren't going to continue to buy the the Wii for the types of games that they've decided to put on the market in recent months. Mediocre reviews for Animal Crossing and Wii Music during the holidays combined with rave reviews for Little Big Planet and Resistance 2 would start to generate steam for the PS3 and with the possibility of a $299.99 PS3 on the market with Blu-Ray and a 40 GB hard drive, and you have a situation where the PS3 could begin to dominate in all territories the way the Wii has been doing so far. At any rate, Nintendo is going to have to cut the price of the Wii and make sure that they have a steady supply of units in the stores to compete with a $199.99 360 and a $299.99 PS3 ($250.00 if Sony decides to release a hard drive optional version).

How can you claim that a company has already sold 50% more systems than they did in the previous generation is "trying to get by on brand name alone"?

How can you claim that a company that has produced games like Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 and Super Smash Bros. Brawl has "totally forgotten how to make good games"?

Certainly Nintendo's short term plans are less than amazing, but we don't really know what their long term plans are but we do know they have several big games on the horizon and some of them may be released within 6 months. Animal Crossing: City Folk will get good reviews and (easily) outsell almost all games released for the rest of the year, and many third party Wii titles are not receiving the respect they deserve and will likely outsell the games you think will mater to PS3 owners.



The Ghost of RubangB said:
Paul_Warren said:

"nice sentiment, and I do agree that Sony have dealt with (most of) the original problems.
However the fact remains that while MS and Sony duke it out over small points of one-upmanship, Ninty is just sitting back and hoovering up the profits."


Of course the problem with Ninty is that have totally forgotten how to make good games and are now trying to get by on brand name alone. They had a disastrous E3, their outing in Leipzig hasn't been any more impressive. And people aren't going to continue to buy the the Wii for the types of games that they've decided to put on the market in recent months. Mediocre reviews for Animal Crossing and Wii Music during the holidays combined with rave reviews for Little Big Planet and Resistance 2 would start to generate steam for the PS3 and with the possibility of a $299.99 PS3 on the market with Blu-Ray and a 40 GB hard drive, and you have a situation where the PS3 could begin to dominate in all territories the way the Wii has been doing so far. At any rate, Nintendo is going to have to cut the price of the Wii and make sure that they have a steady supply of units in the stores to compete with a $199.99 360 and a $299.99 PS3 ($250.00 if Sony decides to release a hard drive optional version).

 

Rave reviews for exclusive games don't affect console sales.  GameCube has several of the highest rated video games of all time, and it was smoked by the uber-casual PS2.

Nintendo learned from their mistakes and Sony's successes.  Every success Sony had somehow made them dumber.

And those prices aren't going to happen.  Sony can't afford to lose more money faster than they are now.

 

 

When games like Madden make 80% of their sales on Wii you can come back and tell us HD consoles are dead......

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:

 

Rave reviews for exclusive games don't affect console sales.  GameCube has several of the highest rated video games of all time, and it was smoked by the uber-casual PS2.

Nintendo learned from their mistakes and Sony's successes.  Every success Sony had somehow made them dumber.

And those prices aren't going to happen.  Sony can't afford to lose more money faster than they are now.

 

 

When games like Madden make 80% of their sales on Wii you can come back and tell us HD consoles are dead......

 

 

He didn't claim that HD consoles were dead



Duly noted, although I didn't say HD consoles are dead.



Onimusha12 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
HappySqurriel said:
blazinhead89 said:

 

And since when does the 1st 18 months of a Console decide its future entire games library ??????

The typical 'good' third party game takes 12 to 24 months to develop when dealing with Wii sized projects, and 18 to 36 months when dealing with PS3/XBox 360 sized projects. The performance through 18 months will determine how publishers allocate their resources for a particular console which will impact all games released in the 3rd year and beyond for the console. Poor sales performance early on will impact the quantity and quality of games in the later life of a console.

PS1?

 

 

The PS1 wasn't necessaraly competing with anyother viable competitors when it launched though, just the Sega Saturn which was $100 more expensive and the Atari Jaguar which was a joke of a competitor, 3D gaming at that time was considered far more lucrative than the proven mainstays of 2D gaming still on the market at that time. By the time the N64 launched two years later, the PS1 had already established a fairly comprable following and a year later in 1997, had cemented itself as the industry leader.

Remember, when the PS1 launched, the 3D gaming market was a place of uncertainty and was a market that had seen more industry new commers (Bandai, Fujutsu, Apple, 3DO and the return of Atari, Casio, Panasonic) than any generation since the early second generation. The PS1 was not only more affordable than the disc format competition, but the one console that was cheaper than it (N64) featured dated and expensive cartridges. The ridiculously cheap game disc format combined with brand new industry changing game titles was everything a fledgling console needed to get a foothold in the market.

However, the PS3 is not a fledgling console, its the successor to the most successful home console of all video game history, its slow start is not due to a lacking benefit of the doubt but rather one of the sharpest falls from grace of any console dynasty to date. It's the most expensive console on the market. Rather than featuring playability of pre-existing popular and utilitarian formats such as CD and DVD as its predicessors did, the PS3 tried to feature a new and unproven propriotary luxury format, Blu-Ray, which attributed to its expense at launch. And al the exclusives the PS3 is trying to rely on are either timid first party games or sequels to aging franchises long since past their prime. The PS1 built a dynasty with games like Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy (as a mass appeal franchise) and Metal Gear Solid... The PS3 now is simply trying to subside on the sequels of these franchises that have become familar and predictable, no more industry suprises, no more game genre innovation, no more fresh faces.

 

You are kidding right ?

 

Assassin Creed, Resistance, Uncharted, Motorstorm say hello.( soon LBP)

PS3 has had more successfull new IPs than the Wii so far.....

 

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !