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whoops, my bad.



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hmmm.....sounds interesting

I hope they work hard at it



I didn't call Mitsu-whatever a bad developer, far from it.

But his hand was in FFXIII, and I'm positive that after he left, everyone was all like "okay, every idea he had, throw it out of the window!". I rather liked FFXII, and what he did with it in his time there was awesome. But I'm talking about people who didn't like XII. I'm sure this game will be full of win, but to believe that his influence on this game was minimal is foolish, he was the director of the game, he had to have something to do with it.



Soriku said:
obieslut said:
i hated the super mario rpg and paper mario for some reason, i could not stand it.

Anyway i think mario should stick to plat formers, racers, sports games, that is what he is good at. anything else will sure be a let down

 

Screw you. The Mario RPGs are the best in the series.

 

screw you , isn't nice soriku

u know people have been banned just for laughing.

you are insulting them.



Soriku said:
obieslut said:
i hated the super mario rpg and paper mario for some reason, i could not stand it.

Anyway i think mario should stick to plat formers, racers, sports games, that is what he is good at. anything else will sure be a let down


Screw you. The Mario RPGs are the best in the series.


screw you , isn't nice soriku

u know people have been banned just for laughing.

you are insulting them.



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sc94597 said:
obieslut said:
trestres said:
Every Mario RPG so far has been excellent. All scoring over 90% so it's just the opinion of a lonely guy (who happens to be a Nintendo hater) that Mario RPGs are not good games.

i dont hate Nintendo. i have owned every nintendo system apart from the Wii and ds. i like many ninty games, its just that many of the games i like from nintendi have not carried over to the Wii yet, pluss i am not going to buy a Wii for like almost 200 when the system only has a few games i like.

just because i like sony over ninty does not mean i hate nintendo.

 

Sorry but what games are those? Mario, Mario Kart, Fire Emblem, Metroid, Zelda(kinda), and SSBB are all big games that have shifted to the Wii.There are a few big ones left like PIkmin, and Starfox, but most of the big ones are already out. There are also many smaller franchises that have yet to shift. ALmost every Nintendo franchise shifted to the DS though.

 

 

before i buy a nintendo system it has to have at least

mario platformer. check, but need a lot moor

SSB. check

starfox. check

pokemon. check. but need a lot moor

zelda. N/A

mario kart, check

donkey kong. N/A

pluss yoshi orientated games. and a few more better 3rd party games. but i dont really like the waggle so



@Obieslut Donkey Kong wasn't on the GC.(I assume you are talking about the platformers). Also you do realize that the Wii controls are more than just Waggle right?



Soriku said:
obieslut said:
Soriku said:
obieslut said:
i hated the super mario rpg and paper mario for some reason, i could not stand it.

Anyway i think mario should stick to plat formers, racers, sports games, that is what he is good at. anything else will sure be a let down

 

Screw you. The Mario RPGs are the best in the series.

 

bah, i would play any mario platformer over the rpg counterparts. the best fun about mario is jumping on top of bowsers big ugly head. or running around like a maniac after you have caught a star


 

You can still do these things in the Mario RPGs =/ Mario RPGs are just a lot funner IMO. They also have fun battle systems and good stories (unlike the platformers). Also better music and characters (RAWK HAWK FTW). Not to mention the awesome art style PM has.

 

nope not how i like to do it you cant. with the rpg mario the battles are turn based and i didnt liek that. not with a mario games i just felt really limiting to say the least. i prefere the mario n64 type of game or the 2d varients. no this half assed rpg with all the soul taken out and mario stuck in the middle of it for good measure



DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
DMeisterJ said:
After all the hate that FFXII has gotten on these boards, IDK how anyone could be excited for this (not saying that anyone said that), but FFXII had a really bad reception with gamers. I personally loved it, so I'll be looking forward to this RPG, but lots of people apparently didn't.

Except...it wasn't Matsuno's fault it was bad. He left midway in the project (to go to Nintendo most likely) and SE just ****ed up the rest. This time he'll actually be able to stay. And I know a lot of people like Ogre Battle and FFT and such.

Erm...

Failry optimistic of you.

Enacting damage control? Why? because his talent is no longer an asset to Square-Enix and thus no longer in favor of the Sony brand? Ogre Battle and FFT are highly acredited games. FFXII certainly is ambiguous as to where blame can be allotted, but given his track record vs FFXII, I would say it was the absense of his influence and the pressures that inevitably forced him to leave that led to a mediocre final product. Or would you have us think that he's lost his touch? Funny you folks are typically so adamant in defending the talent of Square-Enix as still being as good as ever even inspite of the agreed upon quality of thier modern games yet you have no problem what-so-ever in claiming such of one of their bigger names now that he has deffected elsewhere. How convenient.

I'm sure had he remained there, Ogre Battle and FFT would be one of the biggest boasting points for the potential for the upcomming FFXIII. If I recall, one of the key problems he had with FFXII was the pressure being put on him to push it in the direction of FFX (Square-Enix's last successful FF game) rather than FFTA which FFXII was suppossed to be in the spirit of. Not only did FFXII basically copy and paste FFX's world, architecture and character designs but pushed the non-human races (that were an imperative part of FFTA) as far out of the picture as possible keeping only one of the most human races (Fran) as the typical noble savage main character. I'm sure his dissaproval of FFXIII was similaraly rooted in their abandonment of traditional fantasy elements in favor of this stale artistic direction and shallow attempt at a cyber-punk matrix theme. But who knows, as he stands as an enemy to the Square-Enix/Sony cause, his talent must be brought into question.

eitherway. I'd say optimism is more deserving than pessimism here.

 



Onimusha12 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
DMeisterJ said:
After all the hate that FFXII has gotten on these boards, IDK how anyone could be excited for this (not saying that anyone said that), but FFXII had a really bad reception with gamers. I personally loved it, so I'll be looking forward to this RPG, but lots of people apparently didn't.

Except...it wasn't Matsuno's fault it was bad. He left midway in the project (to go to Nintendo most likely) and SE just ****ed up the rest. This time he'll actually be able to stay. And I know a lot of people like Ogre Battle and FFT and such.

Erm...

Failry optimistic of you.

Enacting damage control? Why? because his talent is no longer an asset to Square-Enix and thus no longer in favor of the Sony brand? Ogre Battle and FFT are highly acredited games. FFXII certainly is ambiguous as to where blame can be allotted, but given his track record vs FFXII, I would say it was the absense of his influence and the pressures that inevitably forced him to leave that led to a mediocre final product. Or would you have us think that he's lost his touch? Funny you folks are typically so adamant in defending the talent of Square-Enix as still being as good as ever even inspite of the agreed upon quality of thier modern games yet you have no problem what-so-ever in claiming such of one of their bigger names now that he has deffected elsewhere. How convenient.

I'm sure had he remained there, Ogre Battle and FFT would be one of the biggest boasting points for the potential for the upcomming FFXIII. If I recall, one of the key problems he had with FFXII was the pressure being put on him to push it in the direction of FFX (Square-Enix's last successful FF game) rather than FFTA which FFXII was suppossed to be in the spirit of. Not only did FFXII basically copy and paste FFX's world, architecture and character designs but pushed the non-human races (that were an imperative part of FFTA) as far out of the picture as possible keeping only one of the most human races (Fran) as the typical noble savage main character. I'm sure his dissaproval of FFXIII was similaraly rooted in their abandonment of traditional fantasy elements in favor of this stale artistic direction and shallow attempt at a cyber-punk matrix theme. But who knows, as he stands as an enemy to the Square-Enix/Sony cause, his talent must be brought into question.

eitherway. I'd say optimism is more deserving than pessimism here.

 

I could say the same thing for you *cough* Capcom *cough*

That's highly ironic considering the first line in your post.

Anyway, if you read my post, I said that I personally loved FFXIII, and am waiting for this game (I'll bold that for you), so I don't know how I'm damage controlling or being pessamistic.

I'm just saying that with the icy reception FFXII got with gamers and this forum, being excited for the game is kinda weird with all the hate it's endured.  And with him being at the helm of the game, he had some influence on what the end product was.  You can blame it on SE all you want to, but his name was on the game first, so no matter what, FFXII will go with him wherever he goes.