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Shadowblind said:

Microsoft does pay for alot of its games more then usual. If anyone of you act like thats a bad thing, you really ought to get your head unstuck from wherever it is. Sony did it when they first started, and Microsoft is the newbies to the console wars this gen, and now they need it. its what you have to do to get a console started.

@talking parrot: 360 has already outsold Xbox 1 in japan. Looks like its working to me. if you thought they would instantly have an audience in Japan just like that, your dilusional. It takes time. Being an American company doesn't help they're case either. They are doing the best anyone could have this fast.

 

They won't budge very much.   I garuntee it.  It will stay at a stale mate throughout.  Once a PS3 Price Drop and a Japense centric killer App or two is punched throug- you will see 360 demise in Japan.  Final Fantasy XIII + White Knight Story + Potentially Little Big Planet are the one-two-threes.



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I don't know why people keep hyping WKC, the only Level 5 games that really sold well in Japan were Dragon Quest and Professor Layton.



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Shadowblind said:
Jo21 said:
square enix is the one that will decide the RPG king
and their games are stil 1-2 years away.
wait patiently by march 2009 you will see a demo outselling ToV.

It probably will. Tales isn't near as big as Final Fantasy. It truly is the largest RPG series in existance, so it may be to be expected.

 

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ITs dwarfed by what MGS4 did for the ps3... do not say it is not a relevant comparison that game outsold every ps3 game in one week made it the number one system for a week and completely shatterd expecations..

360 has at most one more week above the ps3 then it is down from there we weill know if an rpg sells better on ps3 when Eternal Sonata(TrustyBell) launches next month in japan.

I still think ps3 will sell the most RPGs if they are just given to it and i mean serious RPG not Folklore, Enchated ARms(outsold 360 version), Disgaea3(cult following) or Valkyria Chronichle(new SRPG IP). In a sense that make Eternal Sonata the first tru Jrpg for the ps3 but for shame it is a year late.

WKS cannot come soon enough.

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ToV results are in fact really bad. I mean really really bad.
I'm sad because the only people that cheer for ToV results are people that don't care one bit about JRPG, but only care about XB360. They don't give a damn about Tales Of or other JRPG.

The purpose of a business is to acquire and keep customers. From then, you have side effects like making money that depends on how well your business is doing. But the core are the customers.
ToV, which is a mothership (main) game, did lower numbers than ToS:KoR, a gaiden (escort) game.
Keep in mind that ToS:Kor cost a lot less to make, as development was started after Wii launch, while ToV was started at least 6 months before XB360 launch. ToS already had an engine that was refined a little, ToV is a brand new engine. ToS is SD, ToV is HD. The difference in costs between the two games must be huge, at least 5 times higher for ToV. I hope MS gave them enough money.

But the worst is that this means the main series is losing lots of customers, it's just dying at this rate.
And no money hat can replace your lost customers. Losing long term value for short term money is always a very bad move. Of course, that's more poor insight, a poor bet on the future from Namdai, back in 2005.

So the XB360 has a little boost (there's your impact), and people are cheering, while the Tales Of main game is just dying before their eyes. But they don't care.
The impact of Tales Of for XB360 is insignificant. People that are saying it's a system seller are just ridiculous, it's clearly not. Only for system wars fans is this big (XB360 > PS3 yeah).
I bet it will be a temporary thing, I don't even think a western like A-RPG like IU can keep the XB360 afloat until its release.

This release alienated the fanbase for sure.
The impact of this release on Tales Of however will be far bigger and will last longer, in a bad way.



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ookaze said:
ToV results are in fact really bad. I mean really really bad.
I'm sad because the only people that cheer for ToV results are people that don't care one bit about JRPG, but only care about XB360. They don't give a damn about Tales Of or other JRPG.

The purpose of a business is to acquire and keep customers. From then, you have side effects like making money that depends on how well your business is doing. But the core are the customers.
ToV, which is a mothership (main) game, did lower numbers than ToS:KoR, a gaiden (escort) game.
Keep in mind that ToS:Kor cost a lot less to make, as development was started after Wii launch, while ToV was started at least 6 months before XB360 launch. ToS already had an engine that was refined a little, ToV is a brand new engine. ToS is SD, ToV is HD. The difference in costs between the two games must be huge, at least 5 times higher for ToV. I hope MS gave them enough money.

But the worst is that this means the main series is losing lots of customers, it's just dying at this rate.
And no money hat can replace your lost customers. Losing long term value for short term money is always a very bad move. Of course, that's more poor insight, a poor bet on the future from Namdai, back in 2005.

So the XB360 has a little boost (there's your impact), and people are cheering, while the Tales Of main game is just dying before their eyes. But they don't care.
The impact of Tales Of for XB360 is insignificant. People that are saying it's a system seller are just ridiculous, it's clearly not. Only for system wars fans is this big (XB360 > PS3 yeah).
I bet it will be a temporary thing, I don't even think a western like A-RPG like IU can keep the XB360 afloat until its release.

This release alienated the fanbase for sure.
The impact of this release on Tales Of however will be far bigger and will last longer, in a bad way.

 

Wow dude, I totally agree.   I don't even want to imagine sales if they made a Wii port, or a PS3 version released along side.  The game would sold 300k +.  Oh well,  I'm sure Microsoft paid a hefty 30 million to keep it exclusive for the few months it will be before it disappears.



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i think we will have to see how the next tale game on wii does. although i think that symphonia 2 is doing better than Vesperia despite not being the main game



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ookaze said:
ToV results are in fact really bad. I mean really really bad.
I'm sad because the only people that cheer for ToV results are people that don't care one bit about JRPG, but only care about XB360. They don't give a damn about Tales Of or other JRPG.

The purpose of a business is to acquire and keep customers. From then, you have side effects like making money that depends on how well your business is doing. But the core are the customers.
ToV, which is a mothership (main) game, did lower numbers than ToS:KoR, a gaiden (escort) game.
Keep in mind that ToS:Kor cost a lot less to make, as development was started after Wii launch, while ToV was started at least 6 months before XB360 launch. ToS already had an engine that was refined a little, ToV is a brand new engine. ToS is SD, ToV is HD. The difference in costs between the two games must be huge, at least 5 times higher for ToV. I hope MS gave them enough money.

But the worst is that this means the main series is losing lots of customers, it's just dying at this rate.
And no money hat can replace your lost customers. Losing long term value for short term money is always a very bad move. Of course, that's more poor insight, a poor bet on the future from Namdai, back in 2005.

So the XB360 has a little boost (there's your impact), and people are cheering, while the Tales Of main game is just dying before their eyes. But they don't care.
The impact of Tales Of for XB360 is insignificant. People that are saying it's a system seller are just ridiculous, it's clearly not. Only for system wars fans is this big (XB360 > PS3 yeah).
I bet it will be a temporary thing, I don't even think a western like A-RPG like IU can keep the XB360 afloat until its release.

This release alienated the fanbase for sure.
The impact of this release on Tales Of however will be far bigger and will last longer, in a bad way.

I completely agree, and as a JRPG fan this worries me. JRPG's are losing their fans, this can't be good no matter how you spin. The same will happen to Satr Ocean 4.

 



This game has to be ported to PS3 atleast. A wii port is HIGHLY wanted.  Just look at a Ace Combat 6.  It would have sold truckloads :(.



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