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I think it is a very interesting article, I was truly not expecting this,

(I dont wanted to post this here, but I dont have find another place. Since it concerns, mainly, microsoft, let's post it here)

The Blu Corner

Rob Fahey 08:00 (BST) 29/06/2007

"To put it bluntly, Microsoft wants both Blu-ray and HD-DVD to fail..."

Predictions of the end of the face-off between Toshiba and Sony over next-gen DVD standards have been rife for the last few years. But while hopes that it would all be over by last Christmas were wildly optimistic, it seems certain that a dominant format will have emerged in plenty of time for this year's holiday season.

The reason is simple; Blu-ray, always the favourite to win but never seemingly having the momentum to fully outpace its rival, has finally started to pull ahead in a meaningful way. The finish line is in sight.

This won't come as a surprise to many people. Perhaps the biggest surprise is that the battle has stretched out for so long. HD-DVD has always been a peculiar beast - a technologically similar format to Blu-ray, but one whose curious alliance of business partners has raised eyebrows from the outset.

The most important backers that a movie disc format can have are, obviously enough, the movie studios. But thanks to stronger protection systems and, in no small part, to the fact that Sony owns many of Hollywood's biggest studios, Blu-ray has always been the preferred choice of those firms.

With only one studio (Universal) exclusively supporting the format, the most vocal supporter in Toshiba's corner has actually come in the slightly unlikely form.

Microsoft has been HD-DVD's champion; Microsoft, a company which doesn't own any movie content, which has repeatedly stated that it won't be releasing any game content on HD-DVD, which doesn't build any of the PCs that run its operating systems and therefore has very little say in which disc format becomes standard on desktop machines.

As such, for all its huffing and puffing, Microsoft's sole contribution to the HD-DVD ecosystem has been to launch an external drive for the Xbox 360 console. It's not a bad contribution, in some ways; it offers a very cheap entry point to HD-DVD for a fairly significant number of consumers, for a start.

However, Microsoft has been sending mixed messages even over this commitment to the standard; it has gone to great pains to point out that should Blu-ray win the standards war, Microsoft can always launch a Blu-ray external drive.

Even though such statements are usually followed up with a "clarification" stating that it doesn't plan to do any such thing right now, it's hardly the ringing endorsement Toshiba might have wanted from its best-known partner in this enterprise.

The fact is that Microsoft's involvement with HD-DVD has very little to do with any real interest in who wins the DVD standards war. If Microsoft actually cared about next-gen disc formats, they would have put a HD-DVD drive in the Xbox 360; but the firm's colours have been clearly pinned to the mast from day one, and it's now reached a point where even HD-DVD's most adamant supporters can no longer turn a blind eye to its true intentions.

Microsoft believes in digital distribution. It believes, fervently, that the hour has come for content to be transmitted to consumers over the network, rather than on a piece of physical media.

It's not the only company in the world that believes this, of course. But of the major players, perhaps only Apple is quite so confident that digital distribution's day is today, not tomorrow.

In Microsoft's worldview, there's no space for a next-gen DVD format. Instead, the firm wants the transition to high definition to occur alongside a transition to digital distribution - and even while making a HD-DVD drive available, the firm has been pushing Xbox 360 consumers towards a clearly preferred model where they pay to download video content to their console's hard drive.

To put it bluntly, Microsoft wants both Blu-ray and HD-DVD to fail. If either format becomes dominant and securely established, it will provide an attractive option to consumers still not quite ready to commit to a media future with no physical products.

However, a fragmented, uncertain market, where a hefty investment in the wrong technology could turn out to be money down the drain, drives consumers straight into the welcoming arms of digital distribution.

When Microsoft first started beating the war-drum on behalf of HD-DVD, it was starting to look like the battle would be over all too soon. The movie studios were lining up behind Blu-ray, the inclusion of a fully specced player in the PlayStation 3 was looking decisive, and it looked for all the world like HD-DVD would be a flash in the pan before being obliterated by the Blu-ray juggernaut.

As it is, both Microsoft's intervention and Sony's manufacturing problems - which were well-publicised in terms of how they affected the PS3, but seriously impacted standalone players as well - have given us the standards war of the past year. To a large degree, all that this has done is to delay the inevitable.

Even if the PS3 hasn't sold as well as Sony had hoped, it has still been successful in many territories, and Blu-ray's studio support has left HD-DVD high and dry.

There's even an argument in some quarters which says that Toshiba's aggressive price-cutting of the HD-DVD hardware (standalone players at one point were half the price of Blu-ray players, and the Xbox 360 add-on is remarkably cheap) has backfired, by turning players into games console-style loss leaders. This has prevented any other consumer electronics manufacturers from entering the marketplace with their own hardware.

The question at this point is not whether Blu-ray will triumph over HD-DVD, however. Nor is it whether the market will move away from DVD. Although it's generally accepted that this transition will be slow, not least due to the abysmal education of consumers regarding high definition products in general, it's also increasingly obvious that it is gathering momentum.

Instead, the question is whether Microsoft's meddling in the market (and the fortuitous, from its perspective, problems which Sony suffered with Blu-ray throughout 2006) has done enough to seed fear, uncertainty and doubt in consumers' minds about HD disc formats.

If the format war were to stretch past another Christmas, it could well be enough to give critical mass to digital distribution services; but that now seems unlikely.

Following Blockbuster's announcement this month that it will stock Blu-ray titles, but not HD-DVD, in response to consumer demand in trial locations, there are rumblings that Universal may finally throw in the towel and defect to the Blu-ray camp. This would almost certainly put a stop to almost any semblance of a format war long before Christmas.

Microsoft must now be hoping that enough has already been done to damage both next-gen disc formats in the public consciousness. The importance of this goal shouldn't be understated. If Blu-ray is largely unscathed and picks up strongly from HD-DVD's inevitable bow out of the market, Microsoft's digital distribution ambitions may be pushed back several years.

And as for gaming, astute followers of the market don't need to be told how important the establishment of Blu-ray as the de facto standard for high definition content is for Sony. If this happens, PlayStation 3's attractiveness as a consumer device will shoot up, and resistance to its high price will collapse. If it doesn't, then Sony's console will look stranded at an unsustainable price point.

Both sides have played their cards. Despite Microsoft's protestations of support for HD-DVD, the truth is clear; their true aim has only ever been to prolong the standards battle for as long as possible. One side believes in discs, the other side believes in downloads. Only time will tell which vision consumers are willing to embrace - and that decision will be very important in deciding the

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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=26216

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Is it any suprise? All you have to do is go on XBL and look at what MS offers. They have the one of the largest, and best, digital distribution systems for multimedia at this point in history.

There are very few that are close (NetFlix comes to mind), and even then, no one is trying to be as multi-faceted as MS is.

It's MS's obvious trojan horse. They've brokered deals with IPTV, movie companies, video game companies, and many other things to turn the X360 into a set-top box beast that does litterally everything. And for me, I love every minute of it because it makes my life easier. Their movies are great, and quick to watch (I can have a movie downloaded quicker than walking 100ft to a blockbuster), I can get free game demos (no system on earth is as good as XBL demos), and all the other normal stuff.

I don't know if it's so much that MS wants them to fail, as it'll always have to have some sort of retail distribution system for the games, as the games are the incentive for stores to sell the Xbox 360s (as they make a much higher % profit off of games), and next-gen optical is important, as we'll always need physical drives (atleast until theres 100% broadband penetration in every major market). But it's more of like MS wants them to languish, so once BR comes out on top, digi-distribution is already on it's way to full maturation, with MS and Apple at the forefront (and Apple is partially owned by MS anyways, as MS is the only reason Apple still exists).



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

The only reason Microsoft is pushing online distribution is so they can keep as many people connected to the internet as they can. The more people that support online connectivity means more people in constant contact with Microsoft "home base." If they do somehow achieve 100% internet connectivity and maintain market dominance, they very well could come out with a subscription based operating system (following the MMO model) and have full control of what and when software is installed on your home PC.

Trust me, Microsoft is not for making it convenient for the users by supporting digital distribution. They are interested in making it easier for them to make money.



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The majority of 360 owners have 20 gb hard drives or less. If they were going to focus on selling downloadable movies they should have thought of that before making the hard drive so small.

I don't think 360 movie downloads are that big. Sony should be starting something similar soon especially since they can put Sony Pictures movies on there cause it's their own and the PS3 hard drives start at 60 gb.



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with MS and Apple at the forefront (and Apple is partially owned by MS anyways, as MS is the only reason Apple still exists).

Actually MS sold back their Apple shares several years back as per their 1997 agreement. But you're right, MS saved Apple. They needed to or the late nineties anti-trust case would have been open and shut and the MS we know today would not exist.


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ckmlb said:
The majority of 360 owners have 20 gb hard drives or less. If they were going to focus on selling downloadable movies they should have thought of that before making the hard drive so small.

I don't think 360 movie downloads are that big. Sony should be starting something similar soon especially since they can put Sony Pictures movies on there cause it's their own and the PS3 hard drives start at 60 gb.

 MS realized that digital distribution is going to be a long, hard battle. It was more cost-effective for them to eliminate HDMI, keep the HDD small, keep the price down, and get into more homes initially than to attempt something more along the lines of what Sony is doing now. They're gearing up for the NextBox and that's when we'll see massive HDDs and storage options for all of the digital distribution. Right now it's too much too soon and they'd end up turning more customers away by forcing an overly expensive console just to push their online distribution program.


I still think that every 360 should have included a HDD but that's really another discussion.



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Yep, it's not a surprise. This point has been iterated over and over again in these forums, in fact.



the Wii is an epidemic.

Digital Distribution will never succeed for Console game IMO. I for one never want a soft version of a game at convenience of company.



End of 2007 Predictions:

Wii =18m

360=14m

PS3=7m

 

DS=64m

PSP=30m

Ackmed Tepish said:
Digital Distribution will never succeed for Console game IMO. I for one never want a soft version of a game at convenience of company.

 

It all depends on how it is done ... If you had a terabyte drive in your console, after paying for the game you could download it as many times as you wanted, and you could pre-download games to have them on the release date then I really don't see that much of a problem; in particular if there is a cost savings because they have eliminated the distribution and retail costs.

"Yep, it's not a surprise. This point has been iterated over and over again in these forums, in fact."

sorry didnt know this ...



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