He should buy the 360, and enjoy the games. I do agree though that the controls on the PC version of mass effect are better, that coming from a HUGE fan of the game on 360

rasone77 said: Currently running Bioshock (1220x720), Mass Effect (1440x990) and CoD4 (1220x720) using not only an 8600 GT but an 8600M GT and you should use a keyboard and mouse for the PC version should you not? Also heres a Dell with twice the HD space of an Elite for just $20 more that will run both games. It also has 7.1 audio. I plugged my Computer directly into my TV and Surround Sound system just like I would a 360. This is a much better deal. http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DDCWFA1&s=dhs Configuration follows: PRICE: $469 mponents PROCESSOR Intel® Pentium® dual-core processor E2180 (1MB, 2.00GHz, 800FSB) edit OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic Service Pack 1 edit MONITOR No Monitor edit MEMORY 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz- 2DIMMs edit HARD DRIVE 250GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™ edit OPTICAL DRIVE 16X DVD+/-RW Drive edit VIDEO CARD ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO 256MB edit SOUND Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio edit KEYBOARD & MOUSE Dell USB Keyboard and Dell Optical USB Mouse edit FLOPPY & MEDIA READER No Floppy Drive Included edit MODEM No Modem Option edit My Software & Accessories SPEAKERS No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system) edit ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE McAfee SecurityCenter with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 30-Days edit OFFICE SOFTWARE Microsoft Works 9.0 edit My Service WARRANTY & SERVICE 1Yr Ltd HW WRTY, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis, 24x7 Phone Support edit DATASAFE ONLINE BACKUP Included 3 GB DataSafe Online Backup for 1Yr edit ALSO INCLUDED WITH YOUR SYSTEM Mouse Mouse included with Keyboard purchase Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1 Network Interface Integrated 10/100 Ethernet Labels Windows Vista™ Basic PHOTO AND MUSIC SOFTWARE No Entertainment software pre-installed Don't call me an unhelpful troll again.

First off, Dells are garbage.  Much better off building your own. 

Second, you do not want to run Vista on that pc, downgrade to XP. 

Third, Shipping and Handling.  $35 for 3-5 day most likely.

Fourth, 7.1 from that computer hooked up to a receiver even remotely decent will sound like garbage.  And what kind of audio outs does that thing have with integrated audio?  More than likely something rubbish.

Fifth, what kind of video outputs does that thing have?? DVI? HDMI?  Because anything else will look like garbage on an HD tv.

That is not a very good computer at all.

^Nothing but (uninformed) opinion in the post above.

First off, total opinion no facts or information to back it up. I'll grant you though that it is usually cheaper to build your own.

Second, with a dual core and 2GB Ram there is no reason why this computer couldn't run Vista properly. Are you in the camp that hates it because it isn't XP?

Third, Shipping has been free on most Dell computers for years.

Forth, I have an integrated sigmaTel HD sound card that sounds excellent coming through my surround sound system.

Fifth, I have mine hooked up through VGA to my Television and get great resolutions with no artifacts or tearing. Besides that Video card comes with an HDMI port.

Good for him he should find many more games that he should like.

Don't forget an optical drive and a copy of Windows (pirating doesn't count).

JaggedSac said: rasone77 said: Currently running Bioshock (1220x720), Mass Effect (1440x990) and CoD4 (1220x720) using not only an 8600 GT but an 8600M GT and you should use a keyboard and mouse for the PC version should you not? Also heres a Dell with twice the HD space of an Elite for just $20 more that will run both games. It also has 7.1 audio. I plugged my Computer directly into my TV and Surround Sound system just like I would a 360. This is a much better deal. http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DDCWFA1&s=dhs Configuration follows: PRICE: $469 mponents PROCESSOR Intel® Pentium® dual-core processor E2180 (1MB, 2.00GHz, 800FSB) edit OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic Service Pack 1 edit MONITOR No Monitor edit MEMORY 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz- 2DIMMs edit HARD DRIVE 250GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™ edit OPTICAL DRIVE 16X DVD+/-RW Drive edit VIDEO CARD ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO 256MB edit SOUND Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio edit KEYBOARD & MOUSE Dell USB Keyboard and Dell Optical USB Mouse edit FLOPPY & MEDIA READER No Floppy Drive Included edit MODEM No Modem Option edit My Software & Accessories SPEAKERS No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system) edit ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE McAfee SecurityCenter with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 30-Days edit OFFICE SOFTWARE Microsoft Works 9.0 edit My Service WARRANTY & SERVICE 1Yr Ltd HW WRTY, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis, 24x7 Phone Support edit DATASAFE ONLINE BACKUP Included 3 GB DataSafe Online Backup for 1Yr edit ALSO INCLUDED WITH YOUR SYSTEM Mouse Mouse included with Keyboard purchase Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1 Network Interface Integrated 10/100 Ethernet Labels Windows Vista™ Basic PHOTO AND MUSIC SOFTWARE No Entertainment software pre-installed Don't call me an unhelpful troll again.   First off, Dells are garbage.  Much better off building your own.  Second, you do not want to run Vista on that pc, downgrade to XP.  Third, Shipping and Handling.  $35 for 3-5 day most likely. Fourth, 7.1 from that computer hooked up to a receiver even remotely decent will sound like garbage.  And what kind of audio outs does that thing have with integrated audio?  More than likely something rubbish. Fifth, what kind of video outputs does that thing have?? DVI? HDMI?  Because anything else will look like garbage on an HD tv.   That is not a very good computer at all.

My laptop is similar spec and runs Vista fine.  But I don't do any hardcore gaming on my laptop.  It has one of the Pentium dual cores in it, and I'm not overly impressed with it, but it gets the job done.  I'm just a little spoiled by my Core 2 Quad on my tower, that's all.  :)

Oh look, another 360 thread has been hijacked by the get a computer instead debate...

Maybe people don't want to buy a brand new computer when they already have one? Maybe people would also like the other 360 games that aren't on PC? Maybe people would rather sit on a couch holding a game controller in front of a TV than sit in a desk chair over a keyboard and a PC monitor?

maybe this is no better than trolling a PS3 thread saying that it serves no purpose other than a bluray player?

if someone is buying a game system, be happy for them. Any other response is just kind of sad.

LOL RROD is not over, not even close! It just happened to a friend of mines like 3 weeks ago. Someone came into the store with one like 2 days ago. It most definitely is not over. RROD is here to stay i am afraid.

As long as constant hardware failure doesnt matter, he has made a good choice. Mass Effect is the only game on the 360 I want but cannot have(unless I get forr PC). If that is the only thing he wants than fine, if not I say he should re evaluate his purchace....

only ps3 fanboys would say rrod is not over. :p