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"Colonel Bondo Maisuradze said the United States would provide the transport to get them out of Iraq. He said he had no timeframe for the move."

So there will be American planes full of troopers landing in Georgia during a Georgia-Russia war? Absolutely nothing can go wrong there.

 



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Will this lead to the first use of a nuclear warhead for war purposes since Hiroshima?

Will somebody actually nuke Russia?



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The second separatist Georgian province (Abkhazia) is also now attacking Georgian forces. The mess keeps building up.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h_pFj41BrbIfhfxvfkJBbZiG3BzgD92ER6KG0

Abkhazia moves to flush out Georgian troops

SUKHUMI, Georgia (AP) — Separatist forces in Georgia's breakaway province of Abkhazia launched air and artillery strikes to drive Georgian troops from their bridgehead in the region, officials said.

Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili said later Saturday that Georgian forces rebuffed the Abkhazian attacks. "Our men there are in high spirits," he said.

The Abkhazian move was prompted by Georgia's military action to regain control over another breakaway province, South Ossetia, which began Friday, said Sergei Shamba, foreign minister in Abkhazia's separatist government.

He said that Abkhazia had to act because it has a friendship treaty with South Ossetia.

Both regions have run their own affairs without international recognition since splitting from Georgia in the early 1990s and have built up ties with Moscow. Russia has granted its passports to most of their residents.

Shamba said Abkhazian forces intended to push Georgian forces out of the Kodori Gorge. The northern part of the gorge is the only area of Abkhazia that has remained under Georgian government control.

Georgia's Security Council secretary Alexander Lomaia said that Georgian administrative buildings in the Kodori Gorge were bombed, but he blamed the attack on Russia.

In 2006, Georgian forces moved into the upper part of the Kodori Gorge to root out members of a defiant militia. Georgia later established a local administration made up of people who fled the fighting in Abkhazia.

Abkhazian and Russian officials have said they believe Georgia intends to launch an offensive from there to retake Abkhazia and demanded the withdrawal of Georgian troops from the area.

Shamba said the Abkhazian forces had to act because diplomatic efforts to settle the dispute over Georgia's presence in the gorge had failed. "Georgian forces in the Kodori Gorge posed a real threat," Shamba said.

 



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colonelstubbs said:
Will this lead to the first use of a nuclear warhead for war purposes since Hiroshima?

Will somebody actually nuke Russia?

Why would anyone be crazy enough to do that? I'm doubting anyone would even launch conventional warfare against Russia, much less nuclear warfare.

 

 

 



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No one will nuke anyone...This is a conventional war.

Russia is stupid for doing this. They just want to re-assert their power over any, and all former satellites.

All one can do is hope and pray that the Georgians can hold them off until a cease fire is done..And hopefully before any more civilian areas are attacked.



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An injured Georgian woman calls for help in the town of Gori, 80 kilometres west of Tbilisi, after a Russian warplane bombed an apartment block yesterday. Photo: Reuters

Shows who the agressor is there...80 miles outside of Tbilisi! Thats well outside the area of conflict (South Ossetia)



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mrstickball said:

 

An injured Georgian woman calls for help in the town of Gori, 80 kilometres west of Tbilisi, after a Russian warplane bombed an apartment block yesterday. Photo: Reuters

Shows who the agressor is there...80 miles outside of Tbilisi! Thats well outside the area of conflict (South Ossetia)

Supposedly they were attacking military bases in that city and some bombs hit apartment blocks.

In any case, it's clear that the conflict is not confined to Ossetia any longer. Expect things to get messier in Abkhazia. I believe Russia is provoking the US to see what they'll do. After all, Georgia is a quite close ally to the US.

I'm curious to see how the Russians will react to USA's assistance in getting Georgian soldiers from Iraq to Georgia for the fight.

 



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Rath said:
And this once again shows the ridiculous system that is the UN security council. Whenever a permanent member goes to war the council is powerless due to the veto and the only time it really gets dangerous is when a permanent member goes to war!

Or when China or Germany does but that's another matter.

China is a permanent member........

 



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USA backs Georgia and Poland hence the missile defense system (middle east paranoia defense). I dont know the truth of this conflict so ill wait to comment but i will say how well timed it was just on the olympics and all.

Those 5 permanent members on the security council have actually vetoed decisions less frequently than they had done prior to the end of the Cold War. I think there needs to be more permanent members and a veto of 2 or 3 in order to guage a better response to votes though.

Zimbabwe was Russia and China, probably 3. If that isn't fair, well considering the other 3 are allies, UK, USA and France, then introduce another permanent member from a non ally group. I would suggest a country from the Middle East, since their so popular right now or a more neutral, non agenda member from Africa or South America.



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Speaking of veto's why didn't Frances veto of the 2003 Iraq invasion go ahead?



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