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steven787 on 09 August 2008
FaithRaven said:
steven787 said:
iamfanboy said:
This is exactly why I recently purchased an HD console. I love Nintendo made games but they will never break out of their stereotype. It doesn't matter if the Wii sells 5 times what they're doing now... they will always get the shaft from third parties (majority) when it comes to T/M rated games.

It's been what... two years now, and again Nintendo will run the show.

Damn, Nintendo's awesome!!! They should invest in expanding their game divisions exponentially, ban third parties all together and do what they do best!

Now it's too late, too many Wii owners are already multi-system owners or planning to be.

Epic fail. There are less than 2% console owners that own more than 1 console.

 

First, that statistic has been being tossed around for a couple weeks now.  Does anyone have a source?

Second, it doesn't make up for the 25 million HD consoles that sold during Wii's 18 months.  Yes the Wii is the top selling console.  But if it had had some Hardcore games imagine what that number would be. (Also if Nintendo had up production faster, instead of waiting till Christmas of 07 to figure out they needed to up it the second time)



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

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Gorgory on 09 August 2008

Nintendo lost the chances to attract hardcore gamers, only thing it attracts now are mostly casuals, so I agree with Steven now is very late, we need to wait for the next console.



SaviorX on 09 August 2008

Nintendo and third parties are dumb at times.

On one hand, 3rd parties still believe that same ol' Hoo-ra:

"3rd party games don't sell on Wii" (they don't advertise ever, mind you)
"Nintendo hoards hardware, leaving 3rd parties to sturggle in sales and development"
"There is no audience for it"
"The Wii's graphics are somehow too low-powered for us, so easily pushing them to the max (and gaining respect in the meantime) would be a waste of effort."
"Wiimote waggle can't work for this game" (Backwards compatible GC controller, Classic Controller, no forced need for motion integration in the first place.)

On the other hand you have Nintendo currently:

Going completely casual for time being, leaving the next several months of the year blank with no real HARD-core release.

Not reaching out for support, instead relying on quarterly profit reports to show up, hopefully changing dev companies minds on their own.

Falling back and pleading ignorance to obvious success factors (online gaming)

Conservatism in thinking that every Wii owner is 9 years old and can't do anything in fear of getting cursed out by random 11 1/2 year old in Animal Crossing.

Not putting enough features into existing and promising features (Nintendo Channel) No Wii demos, lack of updates in NChannel search category, lack of HW space, and saying Wii on (yellow) WC24 standby doesn't hurt your Wii when you know it makes that thing hotter than a mofo.

Not working with devs who don't meet their philosphies in every way (Rockstar North is their name now, it was DMA something before when Nintendo was with em')



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

izaaz101 on 09 August 2008
ZenfoldorVGI said:
iamfanboy said:
Damn, Nintendo's awesome!!! They should invest in expanding their game divisions exponentially, ban third parties all together and do what they do best!

 

I agree. Then somehow they could make Sony go out of business and destroy the 360, and send 3rd parties "Go to hell" letters that start off:

Dear Capcom, Nintendo here. Remember RE4 "exclusivity"? Hope you like Games for Windows.

Except they would all be case specific.

Dear Jaffe, Reggie here. Remember when Sony made consoles? Good times. Enjoy Vista.

I know you want more so here ya go.

Dear Ubisoft, Miyamoto-kun here. Remember Bratz: Babiez? Well, now you can call it Windowz: Piratez, or how bout Farewellz: Profitz.

That's gold Zen! Gold!

 



Gorgory on 09 August 2008
SaviorX said:
Nintendo and third parties are dumb at times.

On one hand, 3rd parties still believe that same ol' Hoo-ra:

"3rd party games don't sell on Wii" (they don't advertise ever, mind you)
"Nintendo hoards hardware, leaving 3rd parties to sturggle in sales and development"
"There is no audience for it"
"The Wii's graphics are somehow too low-powered for us, so easily pushing them to the max (and gaining respect in the meantime) would be a waste of effort."
"Wiimote waggle can't work for this game" (Backwards compatible GC controller, Classic Controller, no forced need for motion integration in the first place.)

On the other hand you have Nintendo currently:

Going completely casual for time being, leaving the next several months of the year blank with no real HARD-core release.

Not reaching out for support, instead relying on quarterly profit reports to show up, hopefully changing dev companies minds on their own.

Falling back and pleading ignorance to obvious success factors (online gaming)

Conservatism in thinking that every Wii owner is 9 years old and can't do anything in fear of getting cursed out by random 11 1/2 year old in Animal Crossing.

Not putting enough features into existing and promising features (Nintendo Channel) No Wii demos, lack of updates in NChannel search category, lack of HW space, and saying Wii on (yellow) WC24 standby doesn't hurt your Wii when you know it makes that thing hotter than a mofo.

Not working with devs who don't meet their philosphies in every way (Rockstar North is their name now, it was DMA something before when Nintendo was with em')

this is the best post i have read in my life and i agree with it 100%

This new nintendo is awful.



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steven787 on 09 August 2008

I don't think they're awful, just missing out.

In the past two years we've had some of Nintendo's greatest core titles ever for Wii and DS. And more than ever. I am saying that third parties (because of Nintendo's and their mistakes) have missed out on an opportunities to have higher profits.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.