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dtewi on 06 August 2008

Aahh! So much delusion! Need help!

slimeattack said:
Everyone is forgetting that the brand name is strong throughout the casual gamers, and Sony has yet to court them (they ARE planning to do it in a year or two). I can give you many casuals that are planning to upgrade to the PS3 once there are more games and the price is lower.

Your anecdotal experience is worthless.

Here is a post of Sky Render's that destroys your post.

"An important note for those who try to argue that "brand name" will help the PS3: brand is the lowest factor on the consumer-side factors of demand. For those who don't know, there are five basic factors of demand in the classic economic model (suitability, price, demographic, product type, and competition). However, consumer-side and supplier-side demand have specific factors, with very little overlap. These factors are:

Consumer-side (in order of priority):
* Suitability
* Price
* Brand

Supplier-side (in order of priority):
* Product Type
* Demographic
* Competition
* Price

In a perfectly competitive market, suitability is a non-factor for consumers, as all products are equal. However, consoles are not a perfectly competitive market, as evidenced by the fact that one console always outsells all others in any given generation of products. The product which does this best suits the needs of the market demographic at large. "At large" being the key term here, as the PS3 does not suit the needs of the demographic at large as well as the Wii does (obviously enough, given the massive discrepancy in sales)."

Obliterator1700 said:
@ The Source: Sometimes trends don't follow. I think it's a little to early to say Wii has anything on the ps2. Just like The Dark Knight and Titanic...

Sometimes they don't. For example: It is a trend that Sony consoles sell great. The PS3 broke it.

But for some, they are not trends. They are realistic predictions. The Wii has something on the PS2 because it is selling faster than it and has the qualities of a dominant console.



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slimeattack on 06 August 2008
dtewi said:
Aahh! So much delusion! Need help!
slimeattack said:
Everyone is forgetting that the brand name is strong throughout the casual gamers, and Sony has yet to court them (they ARE planning to do it in a year or two). I can give you many casuals that are planning to upgrade to the PS3 once there are more games and the price is lower.

Your anecdotal experience is worthless.

Here is a post of Sky Render's that destroys your post.

"An important note for those who try to argue that "brand name" will help the PS3: brand is the lowest factor on the consumer-side factors of demand. For those who don't know, there are five basic factors of demand in the classic economic model (suitability, price, demographic, product type, and competition). However, consumer-side and supplier-side demand have specific factors, with very little overlap. These factors are:

Consumer-side (in order of priority):
* Suitability
* Price
* Brand

Supplier-side (in order of priority):
* Product Type
* Demographic
* Competition
* Price

In a perfectly competitive market, suitability is a non-factor for consumers, as all products are equal. However, consoles are not a perfectly competitive market, as evidenced by the fact that one console always outsells all others in any given generation of products. The product which does this best suits the needs of the market demographic at large. "At large" being the key term here, as the PS3 does not suit the needs of the demographic at large as well as the Wii does (obviously enough, given the massive discrepancy in sales)."

 

Obliterator1700 said:
@ The Source: Sometimes trends don't follow. I think it's a little to early to say Wii has anything on the ps2. Just like The Dark Knight and Titanic...

 

Sometimes they don't. For example: It is a trend that Sony consoles sell great. The PS3 broke it.

But for some, they are not trends. They are realistic predictions. The Wii has something on the PS2 because it is selling faster than it and has the qualities of a dominant console.

 

Then give me a reason besides brand why the PS3 outsold the 360 holiday season '07 when the 360 had better exclusives, multiplats looked better on 360 and blu-ray didn't win the format war yet.



Onyxmeth on 06 August 2008
slimeattack said:
dtewi said:
Aahh! So much delusion! Need help!
slimeattack said:
Everyone is forgetting that the brand name is strong throughout the casual gamers, and Sony has yet to court them (they ARE planning to do it in a year or two). I can give you many casuals that are planning to upgrade to the PS3 once there are more games and the price is lower.

Your anecdotal experience is worthless.

Here is a post of Sky Render's that destroys your post.

"An important note for those who try to argue that "brand name" will help the PS3: brand is the lowest factor on the consumer-side factors of demand. For those who don't know, there are five basic factors of demand in the classic economic model (suitability, price, demographic, product type, and competition). However, consumer-side and supplier-side demand have specific factors, with very little overlap. These factors are:

Consumer-side (in order of priority):
* Suitability
* Price
* Brand

Supplier-side (in order of priority):
* Product Type
* Demographic
* Competition
* Price

In a perfectly competitive market, suitability is a non-factor for consumers, as all products are equal. However, consoles are not a perfectly competitive market, as evidenced by the fact that one console always outsells all others in any given generation of products. The product which does this best suits the needs of the market demographic at large. "At large" being the key term here, as the PS3 does not suit the needs of the demographic at large as well as the Wii does (obviously enough, given the massive discrepancy in sales)."

 

Obliterator1700 said:
@ The Source: Sometimes trends don't follow. I think it's a little to early to say Wii has anything on the ps2. Just like The Dark Knight and Titanic...

 

Sometimes they don't. For example: It is a trend that Sony consoles sell great. The PS3 broke it.

But for some, they are not trends. They are realistic predictions. The Wii has something on the PS2 because it is selling faster than it and has the qualities of a dominant console.

 

Then give me a reason besides brand why the PS3 outsold the 360 holiday season '07 when the 360 had better exclusives, multiplats looked better on 360 and blu-ray didn't win the format war yet.

Price-drop.

 



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dtewi on 06 August 2008
slimeattack said:

Then give me a reason besides brand why the PS3 outsold the 360 holiday season '07 when the 360 had better exclusives, multiplats looked better on 360 and blu-ray didn't win the format war yet.

I am not entirely sure on that subject.

Maybe it was due to because PS3 did have good exclusives and a price cut?

Also, Blu-Ray was far dominant then.

 



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

TheSource on 06 August 2008

PS3 sold better than 360 in Q4 2007 because:

1) Bigger price drop than 360 had in the USA to neutralize 360 momentum in the Americas

2) Much better sales in Japan

3) First Christmas in Europe - 360's third - thats a really big deal

 



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slimeattack on 06 August 2008
dtewi said:
slimeattack said:

Then give me a reason besides brand why the PS3 outsold the 360 holiday season '07 when the 360 had better exclusives, multiplats looked better on 360 and blu-ray didn't win the format war yet.

I am not entirely sure on that subject.

Maybe it was due to because PS3 did have good exclusives and a price cut?

Also, Blu-Ray was far dominant then.

 

 

PS3 didn't have ANY AAA exclusives and Blu-ray wasn't important.



Desroko on 06 August 2008

Yes, Blu-Ray is only important when it's convenient.



slimeattack on 06 August 2008
Onyxmeth said:
slimeattack said:
dtewi said:
Aahh! So much delusion! Need help!
slimeattack said:
Everyone is forgetting that the brand name is strong throughout the casual gamers, and Sony has yet to court them (they ARE planning to do it in a year or two). I can give you many casuals that are planning to upgrade to the PS3 once there are more games and the price is lower.

Your anecdotal experience is worthless.

Here is a post of Sky Render's that destroys your post.

"An important note for those who try to argue that "brand name" will help the PS3: brand is the lowest factor on the consumer-side factors of demand. For those who don't know, there are five basic factors of demand in the classic economic model (suitability, price, demographic, product type, and competition). However, consumer-side and supplier-side demand have specific factors, with very little overlap. These factors are:

Consumer-side (in order of priority):
* Suitability
* Price
* Brand

Supplier-side (in order of priority):
* Product Type
* Demographic
* Competition
* Price

In a perfectly competitive market, suitability is a non-factor for consumers, as all products are equal. However, consoles are not a perfectly competitive market, as evidenced by the fact that one console always outsells all others in any given generation of products. The product which does this best suits the needs of the market demographic at large. "At large" being the key term here, as the PS3 does not suit the needs of the demographic at large as well as the Wii does (obviously enough, given the massive discrepancy in sales)."

 

Obliterator1700 said:
@ The Source: Sometimes trends don't follow. I think it's a little to early to say Wii has anything on the ps2. Just like The Dark Knight and Titanic...

 

Sometimes they don't. For example: It is a trend that Sony consoles sell great. The PS3 broke it.

But for some, they are not trends. They are realistic predictions. The Wii has something on the PS2 because it is selling faster than it and has the qualities of a dominant console.

 

Then give me a reason besides brand why the PS3 outsold the 360 holiday season '07 when the 360 had better exclusives, multiplats looked better on 360 and blu-ray didn't win the format war yet.

Price-drop.

 

 

Didn't the 360 also have a comparable price drop? The 40 GB was a stripped down model, not a lower price.



segajon on 06 August 2008

No, 150 million means an average of 15million a year for ten years. It hasn't even sold 15 million and it has been out for over a year and half.

I do think the sales will pick up for the ps3, but not enough to take it to 150mill



dtewi on 06 August 2008
slimeattack said: 

Didn't the 360 also have a comparable price drop? The 40 GB was a stripped down model, not a lower price.

TheSource gave you good reasons.

"PS3 sold better than 360 in Q4 2007 because:

1) Bigger price drop than 360 had in the USA to neutralize 360 momentum in the Americas

2) Much better sales in Japan

3) First Christmas in Europe - 360's third - thats a really big deal"

Did you choose not to read it?

Also, I said I didn't know much on the matter of 2007 Christmas.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you