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Domicinator on 07 August 2008
ssj12 said:
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:
Kasz216 said:
Euphoria14 said:

I look at it this way because I think it makes a hell of alot of sense as to why BD will eventually overtake DVD.

#1 - Prices will drop and be = to DVD player prices, we all know this.
#2 - Disc prices will drop and be = to DVD disc prices, we all know this.
#3 - No need to repurchase your DVD collection since BD players are DVD compatible.

So when people go into a store and see a BD player for $80 and a DVD player for $80 some of you actually think people will buy the DVD player? At the same time they see a new movie on DVD for $15 and the BD version for $15 they will once again buy the DVD version? This also doesn't include the fact of what will happen if and when studios decide to release on BD first or possibly... BD only in the future.

What about when new home theatre systems are released that include a BD player as opposed to DVD players, once again seeing as BD is DVD compatible.

Jeez.... can I borrow what some people are obviously smoking?

You guys can stand still if you wish. Only I think it makes no damn sense.

If my opinion is somehow seriously flawed, please let me know.


If and when prices are equal AND someone needs a new one... well yeah.

That likely isn't happening for years though... and most people already have players... by then VOD may be everywhere.

VOD wont effect the physical media market that much, people still perfer having the physical media of a movie.

I use VOD to check out movies and if I like it I go out and buy the movie if available on Blu-ray. There are many people like me who do the same.

 

How do you know what most people still prefer?  And are you serious?  OnDemand, Netflix online, and similar services are gaining popularity every second.  I'm not going to say that "most people" go one way or the other for sure, but I am going to venture to guess that "most people" don't buy every single movie they watch.  "Most people" probably rent 99% of the movies they watch, and as far as I've been able to tell so far, "most people" still don't really understand what BluRay even is.  And finally, I'd also be willing to guess that "most people" rent 90% of the movies they watch.

It's just like how people don't understand HDTV.  My in-laws literally have an HDTV on every floor in the house.  There's a big 42" one in their living room, a small one in the kitchen, and a small one in the guest bedroom.  And they don't watch HD content on ANY of them.  They have an HD digital cable box that's hooked up to a fourth TV.........a STANDARD DEF TV!!!!  It drives me absolutely nuts whenever I go to their house.  And I find this to be common.  A guy I work with was bragging that he got an HDTV for Christmas last year.  I asked him how he liked it and he said, "Well, I guess it's clearer than before.  I can't really tell."  I'm sorry, but if you can't tell, you're most likely not watching anything in HD.  Throw in the fact that you can't get HD without an HDMI or HDCP cable, and then people like that start twitching and drooling.  They just simply don't know what they have in their homes, and even if they do, they don't know how to hook it up.

I'd venture to guess that those same people didn't even know there was an HD DVD vs. BluRay war, and if they did, they probably don't know who won or what the difference even was.  I told my sister in law the other day that I usually get my movies via OnDemand and that the HD ones are usually $6.99 or $7.99 if they're new or new-ish.  I believe that's what you pay to rent a BluRay at the store right?  Well, she replied "We go to Blockbuster and get them for much cheaper...they're $3.99 at Blockbuster."  To which I replied, "Yeah, for standard def movies, right?  Not BluRay."  Her reply?  "What's BluRay?"

My favorite is when people come to my house, where I have my HD cable box hooked up with an actual HDMI cable and tuned in to an actual HD channel with the screen set to the correct ratio and not stretching everything out or blowing everything up so that it looks weird.  (Another thing people seem to never realize is that most channels have an HD alternate channel, even if the standard one says it's in HD.)  Then they're always like, "Wow, your TV looks good."  And I always reply, "Yours could look like this too if you would set it up correctly."

My point is that people don't even know what the equipment they already own can do.  Things moved really fast from standard TVs to HDTVs and people are making the switch in droves even though they don't know why.  So BluRay isn't even their vocabulary yet.  But OnDemand is.  I don't know many people who don't know how to use THAT feature.  It's caught on like wild fire along with Netflix.  I think I'm the only person I know who DOESN'T have a Netflix account.  And I think once people get their HDTVs figured out and realize how awesome true 1080 HD can be, they will start seeking that content out via their cable box, not a multi hundred dollar player.

 

 

wtfh, I did not say most, I said many. Get your freaking facts straight before jumping all over someone. It is rude and destroyed basically your entire argument. I refuse to read past you stating I said most when I did not.

For all I care your entire post is bunk.

 

You're right, I apologize.  You didn't say "most people", you said "people still prefer".  I gave you the benefit of the doubt by thinking you meant "most people".  Did you actually mean "all people"?  By saying "people still prefer", you're implying that the vast majority of people buy their movies or rent physical copies.  I'm pretty sure that's not accurate, and it especially won't be once Netflix makes a deal with Comcast or AT&T or another similar cable service.

 

 

I was meaning in general terms that there are people who still like to do it, could be a small group or large group (but the fact that some would still probably mean millions does that really make it a small number).

 

As for your argument, yes people are stupid.

But since the HD singal from your cable company is 720p which means that there isnt a need for an HDMI cable, yet. From what I can tell is that even after the transition to digital there might not be a need for an HDMI cable unless you are running a 1080p TV and a channal decides to broadcast in 1080p. HDCP shouldnt interfer due to the cable box forcing the singals through from what I can tell from my cable box a really weird component setup and your TV upscaling the channels. If it does, time for an HDMI cable.

The channel I'm watching at this very moment is broadcasting in 1080i.  Maybe it's different in your area.

 




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cwbys21 on 07 August 2008
starcraft said:

According to a new research report by ABI research entitled "Blu-ray: Consumer Survey Results", the PlayStation 3 is the only 'bright spot' for the Blu-ray format right now, and without it the format would be struggling "mightily" to reach any consumer acceptance.

“While you might think gamers purchase fewer movie discs than others, we didn’t see any significant evidence of that in our results,” said ABI principle analyst Steve Wilson. “PS3 console shipments will go a long way to help bring down manufacturing costs and drive down Blu-ray player prices.”


Duh.


Outside of these PS3 sales however, mass consumer adoption of Blu-ray is growing at a pace much slower then the industry would like, added ABI.


Again, duh.  The country is in a recession, of course people aren't going to want to be upgrading when money is tight.

The report, which surveyed 1000 people Not the greatest number, but it works., found that over 50 percent of the respondents had not plans to buy a Blu-ray player ever Forever is a long time, that is stupid., and that an additional 23 percent are likely to buy, but not before 2009.Hoping for the recession to end. Most of those polled also declared they would not upgrade simply because they do not have an HDTV and do not plan to buy one.They need to add "right now."  And when their TV goes bad, and there are no more SD TVs on store shelves to buy, what then. Others simply felt standard definition DVD quality was "good enough." 50 percent of those polled rated Blu-ray quality as "much better" than standard DVD, but a large 40 percent said it was only "somewhat better."

ABI also added that they do not expect to see Blu-ray player prices to fall before 2009 Prices have already fallen this year, why won't they keep falling?  Thats right, because they will., and that the PS3 was still the bang for your buck if you do intend to upgrade. Probably, but you can get Blu Ray players for cheaper if you just aren't interested in games.[b/]“We expect that [Blu-ray] player prices will remain above $300 for Tier One models for the remainder of this year." To end this the way I started it, duh.  Prices are dropping, but not that fast.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/15001.cfm

Seems to me like someone needed to write an article for the day and he came up with that.



God hates console fanboys.

ssj12 on 07 August 2008
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:
Kasz216 said:
Euphoria14 said:

I look at it this way because I think it makes a hell of alot of sense as to why BD will eventually overtake DVD.

#1 - Prices will drop and be = to DVD player prices, we all know this.
#2 - Disc prices will drop and be = to DVD disc prices, we all know this.
#3 - No need to repurchase your DVD collection since BD players are DVD compatible.

So when people go into a store and see a BD player for $80 and a DVD player for $80 some of you actually think people will buy the DVD player? At the same time they see a new movie on DVD for $15 and the BD version for $15 they will once again buy the DVD version? This also doesn't include the fact of what will happen if and when studios decide to release on BD first or possibly... BD only in the future.

What about when new home theatre systems are released that include a BD player as opposed to DVD players, once again seeing as BD is DVD compatible.

Jeez.... can I borrow what some people are obviously smoking?

You guys can stand still if you wish. Only I think it makes no damn sense.

If my opinion is somehow seriously flawed, please let me know.


If and when prices are equal AND someone needs a new one... well yeah.

That likely isn't happening for years though... and most people already have players... by then VOD may be everywhere.

VOD wont effect the physical media market that much, people still perfer having the physical media of a movie.

I use VOD to check out movies and if I like it I go out and buy the movie if available on Blu-ray. There are many people like me who do the same.

 

How do you know what most people still prefer?  And are you serious?  OnDemand, Netflix online, and similar services are gaining popularity every second.  I'm not going to say that "most people" go one way or the other for sure, but I am going to venture to guess that "most people" don't buy every single movie they watch.  "Most people" probably rent 99% of the movies they watch, and as far as I've been able to tell so far, "most people" still don't really understand what BluRay even is.  And finally, I'd also be willing to guess that "most people" rent 90% of the movies they watch.

It's just like how people don't understand HDTV.  My in-laws literally have an HDTV on every floor in the house.  There's a big 42" one in their living room, a small one in the kitchen, and a small one in the guest bedroom.  And they don't watch HD content on ANY of them.  They have an HD digital cable box that's hooked up to a fourth TV.........a STANDARD DEF TV!!!!  It drives me absolutely nuts whenever I go to their house.  And I find this to be common.  A guy I work with was bragging that he got an HDTV for Christmas last year.  I asked him how he liked it and he said, "Well, I guess it's clearer than before.  I can't really tell."  I'm sorry, but if you can't tell, you're most likely not watching anything in HD.  Throw in the fact that you can't get HD without an HDMI or HDCP cable, and then people like that start twitching and drooling.  They just simply don't know what they have in their homes, and even if they do, they don't know how to hook it up.

I'd venture to guess that those same people didn't even know there was an HD DVD vs. BluRay war, and if they did, they probably don't know who won or what the difference even was.  I told my sister in law the other day that I usually get my movies via OnDemand and that the HD ones are usually $6.99 or $7.99 if they're new or new-ish.  I believe that's what you pay to rent a BluRay at the store right?  Well, she replied "We go to Blockbuster and get them for much cheaper...they're $3.99 at Blockbuster."  To which I replied, "Yeah, for standard def movies, right?  Not BluRay."  Her reply?  "What's BluRay?"

My favorite is when people come to my house, where I have my HD cable box hooked up with an actual HDMI cable and tuned in to an actual HD channel with the screen set to the correct ratio and not stretching everything out or blowing everything up so that it looks weird.  (Another thing people seem to never realize is that most channels have an HD alternate channel, even if the standard one says it's in HD.)  Then they're always like, "Wow, your TV looks good."  And I always reply, "Yours could look like this too if you would set it up correctly."

My point is that people don't even know what the equipment they already own can do.  Things moved really fast from standard TVs to HDTVs and people are making the switch in droves even though they don't know why.  So BluRay isn't even their vocabulary yet.  But OnDemand is.  I don't know many people who don't know how to use THAT feature.  It's caught on like wild fire along with Netflix.  I think I'm the only person I know who DOESN'T have a Netflix account.  And I think once people get their HDTVs figured out and realize how awesome true 1080 HD can be, they will start seeking that content out via their cable box, not a multi hundred dollar player.

 

 

wtfh, I did not say most, I said many. Get your freaking facts straight before jumping all over someone. It is rude and destroyed basically your entire argument. I refuse to read past you stating I said most when I did not.

For all I care your entire post is bunk.

 

You're right, I apologize.  You didn't say "most people", you said "people still prefer".  I gave you the benefit of the doubt by thinking you meant "most people".  Did you actually mean "all people"?  By saying "people still prefer", you're implying that the vast majority of people buy their movies or rent physical copies.  I'm pretty sure that's not accurate, and it especially won't be once Netflix makes a deal with Comcast or AT&T or another similar cable service.

 

 

I was meaning in general terms that there are people who still like to do it, could be a small group or large group (but the fact that some would still probably mean millions does that really make it a small number).

 

As for your argument, yes people are stupid.

But since the HD singal from your cable company is 720p which means that there isnt a need for an HDMI cable, yet. From what I can tell is that even after the transition to digital there might not be a need for an HDMI cable unless you are running a 1080p TV and a channal decides to broadcast in 1080p. HDCP shouldnt interfer due to the cable box forcing the singals through from what I can tell from my cable box a really weird component setup and your TV upscaling the channels. If it does, time for an HDMI cable.

The channel I'm watching at this very moment is broadcasting in 1080i.  Maybe it's different in your area.

 

 

1080i is typically an upscaled picture through your cable box.



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Kasz216 on 07 August 2008
ssj12 said:

 

wtfh, I did not say most, I said many. Get your freaking facts straight before jumping all over someone. It is rude and destroyed basically your entire argument. I refuse to read past you stating I said most when I did not.

For all I care your entire post is bunk.

 

You claimed VOD wouldn't effect the physical market much. That would imply that most people perfer physical copies.

So while you didn't say most. You implied most.

I disagree... while some people perfer physical copies... once it becomes technologically viable I think VODs that allow you to download movies as a backup will be the leaders in the market.

Instant streaming through your box, that lets you download copies to likely advanced flash memory to be used on other players.



Domicinator on 07 August 2008
ssj12 said:
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:
Kasz216 said:
Euphoria14 said:

I look at it this way because I think it makes a hell of alot of sense as to why BD will eventually overtake DVD.

#1 - Prices will drop and be = to DVD player prices, we all know this.
#2 - Disc prices will drop and be = to DVD disc prices, we all know this.
#3 - No need to repurchase your DVD collection since BD players are DVD compatible.

So when people go into a store and see a BD player for $80 and a DVD player for $80 some of you actually think people will buy the DVD player? At the same time they see a new movie on DVD for $15 and the BD version for $15 they will once again buy the DVD version? This also doesn't include the fact of what will happen if and when studios decide to release on BD first or possibly... BD only in the future.

What about when new home theatre systems are released that include a BD player as opposed to DVD players, once again seeing as BD is DVD compatible.

Jeez.... can I borrow what some people are obviously smoking?

You guys can stand still if you wish. Only I think it makes no damn sense.

If my opinion is somehow seriously flawed, please let me know.


If and when prices are equal AND someone needs a new one... well yeah.

That likely isn't happening for years though... and most people already have players... by then VOD may be everywhere.

VOD wont effect the physical media market that much, people still perfer having the physical media of a movie.

I use VOD to check out movies and if I like it I go out and buy the movie if available on Blu-ray. There are many people like me who do the same.

 

How do you know what most people still prefer?  And are you serious?  OnDemand, Netflix online, and similar services are gaining popularity every second.  I'm not going to say that "most people" go one way or the other for sure, but I am going to venture to guess that "most people" don't buy every single movie they watch.  "Most people" probably rent 99% of the movies they watch, and as far as I've been able to tell so far, "most people" still don't really understand what BluRay even is.  And finally, I'd also be willing to guess that "most people" rent 90% of the movies they watch.

It's just like how people don't understand HDTV.  My in-laws literally have an HDTV on every floor in the house.  There's a big 42" one in their living room, a small one in the kitchen, and a small one in the guest bedroom.  And they don't watch HD content on ANY of them.  They have an HD digital cable box that's hooked up to a fourth TV.........a STANDARD DEF TV!!!!  It drives me absolutely nuts whenever I go to their house.  And I find this to be common.  A guy I work with was bragging that he got an HDTV for Christmas last year.  I asked him how he liked it and he said, "Well, I guess it's clearer than before.  I can't really tell."  I'm sorry, but if you can't tell, you're most likely not watching anything in HD.  Throw in the fact that you can't get HD without an HDMI or HDCP cable, and then people like that start twitching and drooling.  They just simply don't know what they have in their homes, and even if they do, they don't know how to hook it up.

I'd venture to guess that those same people didn't even know there was an HD DVD vs. BluRay war, and if they did, they probably don't know who won or what the difference even was.  I told my sister in law the other day that I usually get my movies via OnDemand and that the HD ones are usually $6.99 or $7.99 if they're new or new-ish.  I believe that's what you pay to rent a BluRay at the store right?  Well, she replied "We go to Blockbuster and get them for much cheaper...they're $3.99 at Blockbuster."  To which I replied, "Yeah, for standard def movies, right?  Not BluRay."  Her reply?  "What's BluRay?"

My favorite is when people come to my house, where I have my HD cable box hooked up with an actual HDMI cable and tuned in to an actual HD channel with the screen set to the correct ratio and not stretching everything out or blowing everything up so that it looks weird.  (Another thing people seem to never realize is that most channels have an HD alternate channel, even if the standard one says it's in HD.)  Then they're always like, "Wow, your TV looks good."  And I always reply, "Yours could look like this too if you would set it up correctly."

My point is that people don't even know what the equipment they already own can do.  Things moved really fast from standard TVs to HDTVs and people are making the switch in droves even though they don't know why.  So BluRay isn't even their vocabulary yet.  But OnDemand is.  I don't know many people who don't know how to use THAT feature.  It's caught on like wild fire along with Netflix.  I think I'm the only person I know who DOESN'T have a Netflix account.  And I think once people get their HDTVs figured out and realize how awesome true 1080 HD can be, they will start seeking that content out via their cable box, not a multi hundred dollar player.

 

 

wtfh, I did not say most, I said many. Get your freaking facts straight before jumping all over someone. It is rude and destroyed basically your entire argument. I refuse to read past you stating I said most when I did not.

For all I care your entire post is bunk.

 

You're right, I apologize.  You didn't say "most people", you said "people still prefer".  I gave you the benefit of the doubt by thinking you meant "most people".  Did you actually mean "all people"?  By saying "people still prefer", you're implying that the vast majority of people buy their movies or rent physical copies.  I'm pretty sure that's not accurate, and it especially won't be once Netflix makes a deal with Comcast or AT&T or another similar cable service.

 

 

I was meaning in general terms that there are people who still like to do it, could be a small group or large group (but the fact that some would still probably mean millions does that really make it a small number).

 

As for your argument, yes people are stupid.

But since the HD singal from your cable company is 720p which means that there isnt a need for an HDMI cable, yet. From what I can tell is that even after the transition to digital there might not be a need for an HDMI cable unless you are running a 1080p TV and a channal decides to broadcast in 1080p. HDCP shouldnt interfer due to the cable box forcing the singals through from what I can tell from my cable box a really weird component setup and your TV upscaling the channels. If it does, time for an HDMI cable.

The channel I'm watching at this very moment is broadcasting in 1080i.  Maybe it's different in your area.

 

 

1080i is typically an upscaled picture through your cable box.

 

According to Comcast, my provider, 1080i or 1080p are the only "true" HD formats.  They broadcast participating HD channels in 1080i.  From what I've read on their FAQ in the last few minutes, it's not just a simple upscale.




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S.T.A.G.E. on 07 August 2008
Alby_da_Wolf said:
HD-DVD died too early, had it lived longer, competition would have driven prices lower and now we'd see cheaper BD players and movies and higher sales. Higher BD drives production would have lowered faster its price too, lowering also PS3 production costs. Anyhow, in a year BD drives will be quite cheap, and Cell will be cheaper too, so Sony costs nightmare will be finally over. If Sony will be eager to overtake MS before, it will have to work on pricing too, so it will cost money, but it could pay more in the mid and long term, so it's up to them to decide.
PR spin is just what we have to expect, as Sony will do anything that could help, but hey, doesn't MS always do the same? (I didn't say Nintendo, because Wii's success exceeded even their rosiest predictions).

Wrong. HD-DVD would've lived if Microsoft cared to put it into the 360, but they didn't. After the PS3 launched with the Blu Ray inside, Microsoft quickly reacted making a $200 attachment. Of course everyone knows it's much better built in, so it didn't work. Blu Ray stand alone prices dropping so suddenly with hurt them. It's already hurting Sony dropping the price of their system to $400, when they are losing $400+ in parts and labor. MS doesn't have to worry about a second hand hd-dvd player weighing them down any longer now that HD-DVD is gone. They can lower the prices and everything should be fine. Sony is in a war with two different markets at the same time...this is one of the many reasons why they lost exclusivity of their finest 3rd party games as well.

 



Domicinator on 07 August 2008
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
HD-DVD died too early, had it lived longer, competition would have driven prices lower and now we'd see cheaper BD players and movies and higher sales. Higher BD drives production would have lowered faster its price too, lowering also PS3 production costs. Anyhow, in a year BD drives will be quite cheap, and Cell will be cheaper too, so Sony costs nightmare will be finally over. If Sony will be eager to overtake MS before, it will have to work on pricing too, so it will cost money, but it could pay more in the mid and long term, so it's up to them to decide.
PR spin is just what we have to expect, as Sony will do anything that could help, but hey, doesn't MS always do the same? (I didn't say Nintendo, because Wii's success exceeded even their rosiest predictions).

Wrong. HD-DVD would've lived if Microsoft cared to put it into the 360, but they didn't. After the PS3 launched with the Blu Ray inside, Microsoft quickly reacted making a $200 attachment. Of course everyone knows it's much better built in, so it didn't work. Blu Ray stand alone prices dropping so suddenly with hurt them. It's already hurting Sony dropping the price of their system to $400, when they are losing $400+ in parts and labor. MS doesn't have to worry about a second hand hd-dvd player weighing them down any longer now that HD-DVD is gone. They can lower the prices and everything should be fine. Sony is in a war with two different markets at the same time...this is one of the many reasons why they lost exclusivity of their finest 3rd party games as well.

 

 

EXACTLY!!!!!!




ssj12 on 07 August 2008
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:

 

I was meaning in general terms that there are people who still like to do it, could be a small group or large group (but the fact that some would still probably mean millions does that really make it a small number).

 

As for your argument, yes people are stupid.

But since the HD singal from your cable company is 720p which means that there isnt a need for an HDMI cable, yet. From what I can tell is that even after the transition to digital there might not be a need for an HDMI cable unless you are running a 1080p TV and a channal decides to broadcast in 1080p. HDCP shouldnt interfer due to the cable box forcing the singals through from what I can tell from my cable box a really weird component setup and your TV upscaling the channels. If it does, time for an HDMI cable.

The channel I'm watching at this very moment is broadcasting in 1080i.  Maybe it's different in your area.

 

 

1080i is typically an upscaled picture through your cable box.

 

According to Comcast, my provider, 1080i or 1080p are the only "true" HD formats.  They broadcast participating HD channels in 1080i.  From what I've read on their FAQ in the last few minutes, it's not just a simple upscale.

Your going to believe a large company like comcast? Seriously. Thats like believing Mircosoft Works.

Either comcast broadcasts a very limited number of HD channels or they are lying their arses off.

Even Direct TV, I use bright house, advertises their selection as HD and does not provide a number to go with it. Bright House advertises HD programming too, not "true HD" whioch is bunch anyways as true HD is 1440p+ which only PC monitors can do.



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Domicinator on 07 August 2008
ssj12 said:
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:

 

I was meaning in general terms that there are people who still like to do it, could be a small group or large group (but the fact that some would still probably mean millions does that really make it a small number).

 

As for your argument, yes people are stupid.

But since the HD singal from your cable company is 720p which means that there isnt a need for an HDMI cable, yet. From what I can tell is that even after the transition to digital there might not be a need for an HDMI cable unless you are running a 1080p TV and a channal decides to broadcast in 1080p. HDCP shouldnt interfer due to the cable box forcing the singals through from what I can tell from my cable box a really weird component setup and your TV upscaling the channels. If it does, time for an HDMI cable.

The channel I'm watching at this very moment is broadcasting in 1080i.  Maybe it's different in your area.

 

 

1080i is typically an upscaled picture through your cable box.

 

According to Comcast, my provider, 1080i or 1080p are the only "true" HD formats.  They broadcast participating HD channels in 1080i.  From what I've read on their FAQ in the last few minutes, it's not just a simple upscale.

Your going to believe a large company like comcast? Seriously. Thats like believing Mircosoft Works.

Either comcast broadcasts a very limited number of HD channels or they are lying their arses off.

Even Direct TV, I use bright house, advertises their selection as HD and does not provide a number to go with it. Bright House advertises HD programming too, not "true HD" whioch is bunch anyways as true HD is 1440p+ which only PC monitors can do.

 

I'll believe Comcast before I believe you.  I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and for a company that size to state something like that right on their website and not have it be true would be nothing but trouble for that company.  I assure you that they broadcast their true HD channels in 1080.

And yes, 1080 is considered the industry standard HDTV resolution at the moment.  PC monitors may be able to go higher, but TVs don't at the moment, or very few of them do.  I do know this; no television signal is broadcasting higher than 1080i at the moment, so 1440 doesn't matter anyway.  It can't be the true industry standard if nobody is even able to use it yet.

 




S.T.A.G.E. on 07 August 2008
ssj12 said:
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:
Domicinator said:
ssj12 said:

 

I was meaning in general terms that there are people who still like to do it, could be a small group or large group (but the fact that some would still probably mean millions does that really make it a small number).

 

As for your argument, yes people are stupid.

But since the HD singal from your cable company is 720p which means that there isnt a need for an HDMI cable, yet. From what I can tell is that even after the transition to digital there might not be a need for an HDMI cable unless you are running a 1080p TV and a channal decides to broadcast in 1080p. HDCP shouldnt interfer due to the cable box forcing the singals through from what I can tell from my cable box a really weird component setup and your TV upscaling the channels. If it does, time for an HDMI cable.

The channel I'm watching at this very moment is broadcasting in 1080i. Maybe it's different in your area.

 

 

1080i is typically an upscaled picture through your cable box.

 

According to Comcast, my provider, 1080i or 1080p are the only "true" HD formats. They broadcast participating HD channels in 1080i. From what I've read on their FAQ in the last few minutes, it's not just a simple upscale.

Your going to believe a large company like comcast? Seriously. Thats like believing Mircosoft Works.

Either comcast broadcasts a very limited number of HD channels or they are lying their arses off.

Even Direct TV, I use bright house, advertises their selection as HD and does not provide a number to go with it. Bright House advertises HD programming too, not "true HD" whioch is bunch anyways as true HD is 1440p+ which only PC monitors can do.

 

You're being quite foolish. I have Comcast and they will have 800 HD channels by 2009. They've monopolized the Digital Cable industry and they want to dominate Satellite as well.