The fail is strong in this thread.

Yeah, but is anyone claiming that most PS3 buyers were primarily getting the system to play Blu-rays?  I believe the current attach rate is less than 1 Blu-ray movie per PS3, on average.

True, and it's not a good situation for non-gamers or even for Blu-Ray.

Imagine you don't care at all about games. After seeing that the cheapest Blu-Ray player is a PS3, you will quite likely postpone or cancel your Blu-Ray purchase. You will feel the price is too high, and some people have an anti-game bias which would prevent them from buying a PS3.

Frankly, I think their Blu-Ray strategy was a joke for quite some time. PS3's price cuts ended up hurting standalone Blu-Ray players a lot, and many people still have the idea that the PS3 is the cheapest player.

False ,the number I found (the link is in the DVD vs BR thread) was about disc consumption.In Europe the BR is taking off faster that what DVD did.Just hanging around in any movies section in any shop you can see a healthy BR stand.

 Now if you are going to say things like "combined US and EU BR sales dont equal DVD sales in US alone 2 years and a half after its introduction(so by 1998)" then back them up.

I did... in the last thread.

Here you go though...

http://www.dvdinformation.com/News/press/CES010807.htm

In it's third year DVD ranked up a total of 94 million shippped... in the US alone. Blu-ray isn't projected to do anywhere near that.... worldwide total... let alone 1 year shipments. (Well it's DVDs second and a half year.)

2006-2008 = 11 Million in June

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1355

1997-1999 = 55.6 Million around June.

So... there is my proof. Lets see yours.

Edit: Also to note... In november of last year. Blu-ray sold a total of 1 Million Blu-ray movies in europe... total lifetime. If for the following year it even increased by 1000% it would Blu-ray US and Europe combined would be well below DVD in US alone.

http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/11462/12486/Blu-ray-discs-hit-one-million.phtml

Reedit: Which it didn't. As of February it was at 2 Million.

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/02/14/blu-ray-sales-surpass-2-million-in-europe/

So from February to now has Bluray sold over 9 million copies in europe?

(Btw the article may confuse you since it says 2 million vs 2.3 million it's first year. That's because the first year numbers include PS3 games as blu-ray discs.)

I'll be waiting for your "proof".

I have been excited about BluRay since way back when it was announced. But I'm sure as hell not going to buy one until they're under $200, maybe even $150. And if I do buy one, it will be a drive for my PC. Why? Because I only want to use them for storage. I'm not a movie collector. I get my HD movies via my OnDemand service or XBL. I really don't care if I have a physical disc for a movie or not.

I think the general public is starting to shift this way as well. You can get any HD movie you want now without having to leave your house, and you don't have to wait for Netflix to send it to you in the mail anymore either. You can order it up right from your cable box or computer and have it streaming in immediately.

THIS is what's hurting BluRay.

I did the same for DVD, the first unit I had was a DVD +-R/RW for my PC, I bought it when price dropped under  100€ and I got a player for the living room more than one year later. And the same I will do for BD, except perhaps this time I'll wait for the price to be under 80€, you know, oil crisis, prices skyrocketing and I have a new SATA DVD rewriter for my next PC, I must reduce expenses whenever I still can, so if food, fuel and energy get more expensive, I'll eat more pig and less beef, I'll keep my old car longer and change it only if I find a great offer for a low fuel consumption model, and I'll postpone not essential PC upgrades. And I'll keep on buying games when they go budget and I won't buy a Wii until it's under €150.

Graduating won't change much this, as the wage will be quite low for the first 2 or 3 years.

Yes, that is a really small survery size. I kinda skimmed over it.

You're absolutely correct with that. See, the regular DVD collection of Planet Earth ONLY has 150 minutes of actual footage, with Blu-Ray containing a whopping 550 minutes of footage! That's the only reason I would get a PS3 for, besides playing PS2 games I never got a chance to own or fully finished (I mentioned it on another thread).