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bobobologna on 04 August 2008
Garcian Smith said:

 

slimeattack said:
Garcian Smith said:
Prediction: The PS4 will debut Christmas 2011, while third-party support for the PS3 will drop off sharply after Q1 2009. From this news, it seems as though the PS4 will simply be a more powerful PS3, probably with a motion controller. The Xbox 720 will debut in the same year, and be both less powerful and cheaper, also with a Wiimote-like controller.

Meanwhile, Nintendo will continue to ride the Wii wave and debut the Wii 2 with built-in MotionPlus technology and full Wii BC in 2012. Most next-gen multiplatform games will be Wii2/X720.

 

Please stop trolling. Why would PS3 support crash in Q1 2009? Because the developers will go to the Wii? In that case 360 support would drop even more. And how can you know on which platforms the next-gen multiplat games will be?

 

PS3 support will crash in Q1 '09 because there's no major third-party PS3 exclusives outside of FF Versus XIII announced for it after that. All of those PS360 action games and FPS's we're seeing announced for TBA '09? A large number of them are former PS3 exclusives that developers took multiplatform in order to cut their losses. I'm willing to bet that a lot of them will be canceled or shoved out the door in an unfinished state as well between then and now.

Just look at the number of third-party exclusives announced for the PS3, 360, and Wii thus far in 2008. The Wii netted a bunch; the 360 got a couple of games from Square thanks to their "partnership," as well as a few other games that they threw a boatload of money at; and the PS3 got... well... nothing notable, that I can think of. The tide has already shifted toward the Wii, but it probably won't be until next year that we see the full effects.

For further proof, look at the fact that PS3 fans continually list vaporware like Kurayami and Ni-Oh in their "PS3 exclusives" lists.

Also, the accusation of "trolling" has to be the most overused thing on the forums right now.

 

Then you should clarify and say that 3rd party exclusive support will crash in Q1 '09.  You make it sound like Sony will be the only people making PS3 games after next year.



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obieslut on 04 August 2008

what a stupid rumor



Simulacrum on 04 August 2008

Its not so big that companies are making next gen consoles...Wii 2 annoucned,Xbox 720 announced.Sure ps4 too.



 

 

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Burgles on 04 August 2008
colonelstubbs said:
Sony will not abandon the 10 year cycle.

Especially after that phrase pretty much becoming their mantra

 

 Its not up to Sony, if it were then I'm sure you would be right.

In fact Sony are the only people who have no control over the "10 year cycle".



Garcian Smith on 04 August 2008
Geldorn said:

 

As long as PS3 software sells, third party support won't drop. And since PS3 software sales have only been going up, I'm thinking you should rethink your idea that the only third party support that counts is exclusive games.

Besides, stating that all those PS360 games where originally PS3 exclusive is not the same as proving they where. I could just as easilly say the reverse and we'd have no way of telling since most of those games where announced as multiplatform games to begin with.

 

 

It's not a matter of absolute sales, but instead relative sales. It doesn't matter how much software on the PS3 sells; so long as its competition is selling more, the third-party support will go to that competition.

As for your second point, well, you need only a healthy dose of inference. We've already seen the trend in big-name games. Two-thirds of the PS3's "Big Three" exclusives list from 2007 (DMC4, MGS4, FFXIII) are now multiplatform. Suspiciously, most of the HD titles announced in the past year or so have been PS360 titles - and all of those titles will have been in development for at least a year. It's not too hard to infer that, once the Wii inevitably gains 50% marketshare before the end of this year, we'll see third-party support for both HD consoles take a sharp drop - not to zero, mind you, but to a much lower number than it's at now.

Of course, that's not 100% proof, but really, we're already seeing the trend begin.



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

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perpride on 04 August 2008
masterb8tr said:
the way i see it, ps3 will sell as long as blu ray stays as the new standard format.

exaaactly...which is why it will be a ten year cycle.



reask on 04 August 2008

on topic the worrying thing here is if rumour is true ps3 owners get pawned.



 

 

 

 

Loud_Hot_White_Box on 04 August 2008
NJ5 said:

Forget about the 10-year cycle, it's just a PR gimmick. Console lifecycles are decided by customers, not companies.

Besides, even if the PS3 has a 10-year cycle, that doesn't mean the PS4 will come in 10 years. Look at how the PS2 is still selling well into PS3's lifecycle.

 

 

PS3 will have a10-year, profitable cycle.  PS4 will come well before 10 years pass.  The "10-year cycle" truism has ALWAYS been about the former, not the latter.



Leetgeek on 04 August 2008

*sigh*

This is whats happening:

Sometimes a technology can be superior but will still "Die" because it's sales do not pick up and/or the public in general will chose another format. This is what happened to Betamax.

So a lot of people thought that PS3 was a lock to sell billions of consoles the day it was released. But it didn't. The system was too expensive ($600). Also it had some HARSH competition in the Wii which was not only an innovative and great idea on Nintendo's part but also three hundred AND FIFTY dollers less then PS3. Not to mention that PS3 was ALSO competing against the seemingly less expensive X-Box 360 which was already releasing it's second generation games including Gears of War. Think about it it was basically LAIR Vs. Gears of Wars and Twilight Princess.

So in truth PS3 should have been dead in the watter but what happened?

It did not die.

It survived long enough to help Bluray crush HD-DVD, it survived long enough to bring the MGS4 bundle pack and it has survived long enough to outsell it's closest competitor the X-Box 360 for almost all of 2008 even with a higher price tag.

The very things that made the PS3 too expensive in the beginning are now PS3's biggest advantages because as time goes on game producers will get more results out of bluray and the cell as the production costs of such technology plummets.

This may be news for some of you but guess what: This is not 2006 anymore.





reask on 04 August 2008
Leetgeek said:
*sigh*

This is whats happening:

Sometimes a technology can be superior but will still "Die" because it's sales do not pick up and/or the public in general will chose another format. This is what happened to Betamax.

So a lot of people thought that PS3 was a lock to sell billions of consoles the day it was released. But it didn't. The system was too expensive ($600). Also it had some HARSH competition in the Wii which was not only an innovative and great idea on Nintendo's part but also three hundred AND FIFTY dollers less then PS3. Not to mention that PS3 was ALSO competing against the seemingly less expensive X-Box 360 which was already releasing it's second generation games including Gears of War. Think about it it was basically LAIR Vs. Gears of Wars and Twilight Princess.

So in truth PS3 should have been dead in the watter but what happened?

It did not die.

It survived long enough to help Bluray crush HD-DVD, it survived long enough to bring the MGS4 bundle pack and it has survived long enough to outsell it's closest competitor the X-Box 360 for almost all of 2008 even with a higher price tag.

The very things that made the PS3 too expensive in the beginning are now PS3's biggest advantages because as time goes on game producers will get more results out of bluray and the cell as the production costs of such technology plummets.

This may be news for some of you but guess what: This is not 2006 anymore.



 

 Sorry leetgeek but imo sony thought they only had to turn up to win.

 

this gen has not happened for them so they are just going to move on.

After all why let ms get another head start next gen?