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MrBubbles on 04 August 2008
MontanaHatchet said:

What about the War of 1812 when the U.S. was on the verge of becoming British property again?

 

 

 

nice how you make yourselves sound like victims in a war the US started.



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PapaSmurf5721 on 04 August 2008

Obama.



                                     

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Rath on 04 August 2008

"What about the War of 1812 when the U.S. was on the verge of becoming British property again?"

Britain never tried to reconquer the USA in 1812, the Americans declared war on the Brits because they weren't too happy with them at the time. In fact America actually made a half hearted attempt to conquer Canada.



Nintendo Fan Girl on 04 August 2008

lol im so young!



Desroko on 04 August 2008
Rath said:
"What about the War of 1812 when the U.S. was on the verge of becoming British property again?"

Britain never tried to reconquer the USA in 1812, the Americans declared war on the Brits because they weren't too happy with them at the time. In fact America actually made a half hearted attempt to conquer Canada.

More half-baked than half-hearted.

 



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Strategyking92 on 04 August 2008

either way, the US is screwed. We need a tri-party system.



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elprincipe on 04 August 2008
Strategyking92 said:
either way, the US is screwed. We need a tri-party system.

 

No, we need a no-party system.  But I digress.

The chart is way, way too simplistic to base your preferences off of.  It's also inaccurate in some places, such as putting down Obama for universal health care.



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MontanaHatchet on 04 August 2008
MrBubbles said:
MontanaHatchet said:

What about the War of 1812 when the U.S. was on the verge of becoming British property again?

 

 

 

nice how you make yourselves sound like victims in a war the US started.

Who said I'm siding with America? Nothing I said would point towards that.

Rath: I'm aware of that. However, Great Britain would have likely reconquered the U.S. out of spite (and also, why not?).

 



 

 

The Ghost of RubangB on 04 August 2008

That was a silly link.

Obama is for raising the minimum wage and for net neutrality.
McCain is against both.

That's just nuts.

How can anybody oppose raising the minimum wage? If inflation goes up and the cost of living goes up, and wages DON'T go up... more people fall under the poverty line. People need 2 or 3 jobs to pay rent. That's total bullshit. I've been there before. If I wasn't getting tips at my job, I wouldn't have been able to afford my cheap-as-fuck ghetto apartment.



I'm voting Obama. I'm also against the war in Iraq, considering we didn't even finish the fucking job in Afghanistan, and now we're considering starting a 3rd invasion in Iran? Iran is a serious issue in our election? And I'm for universal health care and I support all abortions, even after the whiny fuckers are born.



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Kasz216 on 04 August 2008
Desroko said:
Bursche said:
Besides the War in Iraq and Universal Healthcare, Obama and McCain have pretty similar stances.

Im going for McCain, but Im sure Obama will win.

 

Not really. You have to ignore abortion and other judicial issues, climate-change and related energy issues, tax policy, civil, voting, and workers' rights, Social Security, and a few more I've forgotten for that statement to be accurate.

Hm. Abortion yes.

Climate change... not really. Both are heavy belivers in global warming.

Related Energy issues... the only thing his Ethanol.

Which Obama is for, and McCain is against. However i hope Obama will change his position after he gets elected and isn't stuck to Illnois ethanol lobiests anymore to keep his job as senator. The UN calls biofuels one of the biggest reasons for the global food crisis... even so far as to say what the EU and America have done is criminal.

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/apr2008/2008-04-28-03.asp

Obama wants to INCREASE Ethanol production making the crisis worse.  In the debates i'm hoping this gets brought up.  Assuming there are any... Obama wants as few as possible for some reason.

Workers rights.... I don't see a difference.

Social Security... that's screwed up either way.

Furthermore their stance on the war is exactly the same. They just have two different ways of going about it. Both refuse to fully pull out until Iraq can handle it's own problems. It's just that Obama thinks it's ok now and wants to risk a pullout now, while McCain is mroe cautious.