| colonelstubbs said: I'd vote Obama if i was American. He looks like the kind of guy you would have home for dinner |
That's the same kind of reasoning that got Bush elected president.
Look how that worked out.
| NightDragon83 said: @akuma587... you know what's really funny about that list? People in America are always hearing from the left, especially people like Michael Moore, about how amazing the heath care system in Canada is... but according to your list, they're only 7 spots above the evil healthcare nightmare that is the USA.... hell they barely managed to crack the top 30! Hell, even Israel, a nation under constant rocket attacks and suicide bomber watches, has better health care than our friendly neighbors to the north! And France and Italy's economies are just humming along now aren't they? Italy is in worse shape than we are, and that's saying something. |
That's also kinda scary considering that Canada has a lot less people then the US. A Canada like healthcare system would cost way more then Canada per person just based on the bueracracy needed because of the huge number of people there are.
Healthcare is another thing that should probably be handled at the state level.
One of the reasons are healthcare system is so screwed up is because we just have a lot more people then other countries.
| NightDragon83 said: @akuma587... you know what's really funny about that list? People in America are always hearing from the left, especially people like Michael Moore, about how amazing the heath care system in Canada is... but according to your list, they're only 7 spots above the evil healthcare nightmare that is the USA.... hell they barely managed to crack the top 30! Hell, even Israel, a nation under constant rocket attacks and suicide bomber watches, has better health care than our friendly neighbors to the north! And France and Italy's economies are just humming along now aren't they? Italy is in worse shape than we are, and that's saying something. |
No country is perfect, but out of the top 25 industrialized nations, we are the ONLY one who doesn't have socialized medicine. We are the exception, not the norm.
We actually spend a higher percentage of our GDP on healthcare than does Great Britain and France, yet we have worse healthcare, which is a testament to how much leverage insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies have.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92136549#share
No doubt you've heard that the United States is the only developed nation without a universal health care system that provides care for all.
The result is that 47 million people in the United States lack health coverage. It's one reason the U.S. ranks 29th in the world in terms of life expectancy and at or near the bottom of most international health care comparisons.
What you might not know is that many of the universal health care systems in Europe provide high-quality health care to all residents, at a much lower cost than what people in the United States spend on health care.
There is also an interactive graph which lets you compare six different countries on a lot of factors regarding their healthcare:
http://www.npr.org/news/specials/healthcare/healthcare_profiles.html
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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
SlorgNet said:
Um, the reason 2000 was a controversy is that a majority of US voters chose Gore, not Bush - but our 18th century electoral system turned the loser into the victor. I didn't vote for Gore myself, but the Electoral College is, without question, a barbarous relic, which should be replaced with a direct vote. As for the election - I'm registered in Illinois, so my vote doesn't matter - Obama will win overwhelmingly here. Don't know who I'll vote for, but it sure as heck won't be for The Manchurian Candidate, a.k.a. McCain. Maybe the Greens, if they're running a national candidate. Obama is a smart guy and a savvy politician, and is almost sure to win the election. But here are the massive challenges America faces: 1. The US health care system is broken - we have the highest costs but our healthcare outcomes are among the worst in the industrial world (#36 in infant mortality, #42 in life expectancy). Why? No universal health coverage. Fat profits for insurance companies, bankrupcty and misery for everyone else. 2. Our mass media is broken - five giant corporations own the US mass media, period. They lied us into the war on Iraq and couldn't give a rat's ass about democracy. Fat profits for those corporations, crappy media for everyone else. 3. Our foreign policy is broken - we spend close to $1 trillion a year on the world's largest war machine, despite the fact that we have no significant military enemies anywhere in the world. (China has a small military and no force projection capacity. India and Russia are democracies with small, defensive militaries. North Korea has no oil and couldn't invade a beach resort.) Fat profits for the military-industrial complex, waste and wars for everyone else. 4. Our electoral system is broken - the Electoral College is deeply undemocratic, and the first-past-the-post system is a lousy way to represent the popular will, which is why all of Eastern Europe adopted systems of proportional representation. Even if you get elected in the US, $3 billion in campaign donations and corporate lobbyists make political change almost impossible. Fat profits for corporate lobbyists, lousy legislation for everyone else. 5. Our housing market is broken - Fannie and Freddie Mae are about to be nationalized. Fat profits for the investment bankers who sold bogus mortgage securities, huge losses for the public till. 6. Our energy economy is broken - high gas prices means the middle class can no longer afford the driving, heating and cooling costs of suburban sprawl, while the Federal government has done almost nothing to jumpstart the use of wind, solar and renewable energy. Fat profits for constructional moguls, oil companies and Detroit, but horrendous long-term costs for everyone else. 7. Our distribution of wealth is broken - a tiny bunch of rich people (1% of the population) have gotten fabulously wealthy, while the vast middle-class majority has seen their real wages fall and their debts skyrocket. Fat City for the rich, hard times for everyone else. 8. We're dependent on the Bank of China and the EU to lend us $800 billion per year, just to keep our economy going (what the economists call our current account deficit).
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By savvy do you mean hooking up w/ Farakan and Rezko? Or winning the Illinois Senate unopposed? ; Are you kidding me China's PRC has over 2,250,000 million in their military w/o reserves. They are 1st in the world in strength. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China North Korea has about 6 million available for draft service and can blow the crap out of the folks south of the DMZ at at moments notice. Technically we, the US, are still at war with NK. Get your facts straight.
akuma587 said:
No country is perfect, but out of the top 25 industrialized nations, we are the ONLY one who doesn't have socialized medicine. We are the exception, not the norm. We actually spend a higher percentage of our GDP on healthcare than does Great Britain and France, yet we have worse healthcare, which is a testament to how much leverage insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies have. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92136549#share No doubt you've heard that the United States is the only developed nation without a universal health care system that provides care for all. The result is that 47 million people in the United States lack health coverage. It's one reason the U.S. ranks 29th in the world in terms of life expectancy and at or near the bottom of most international health care comparisons. What you might not know is that many of the universal health care systems in Europe provide high-quality health care to all residents, at a much lower cost than what people in the United States spend on health care. There is also an interactive graph which lets you compare six different countries on a lot of factors regarding their healthcare: http://www.npr.org/news/specials/healthcare/healthcare_profiles.html
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It wouldn't have anything to do with the notorious obesity of the U.S., would it? If we lost a little bit o' weight, might that decrease the costs significantly.
Also, how is a system which is run by several large corporations accountable to few worse than a system run by one gigantic "corporation" accountable to no one? The consequences of corruption there seem to be a lot higher.
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^^^ What he said...
On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.
Any objective comparison to our healthcare system to many of the other major industrialized countries will tell you one thing, we pay more for worse healthcare than they do. I don't see how that is acceptable, even if we do keep our current system.
We should stop discriminatory insurance policies (hell, my mom is in perfect shape and was immediately dropped from her insurance when one test said she had high blood pressure, even though a later test said she didn't), and have far more control over what pharmaceutical companies charge consumers for most drugs. I don't begrudge them recouping their investment capital with a profit, but pharmaceutical companies have a higher profit margin than the OIL companies, and the only companies that can even compete with their numbers are the major beverage companies, like Coke and Anheuser-Busch.
Part of the problem in this country is we are too scared of the government. In France, if they don't like what is going, they have mass protests, and the people in charge shit their pants and give the people what they want. The government is scared of the people rather than the people being scared of the government.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
Obliterator1700 said:
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Companies are moving to China and India because Reagan and the Republicans did away with the trade tariffs that prevented the jobs from leaving in the first place.
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Free trade is not something people can complain about, it is just the reality. Giving companies some tax incentives to keep their production in the U.S., such as agriculture, weapons manufacturing, and plenty of other things, can be a good idea though.
In the end, free trade helps everyone, and an economy simply has to adapt to it.
It is just plain wrong though to say that what always passes for "free trade" is actually free trade, however, such as dumping practices from Chinese manufacturers, China refusing to let its currency fluctuate with respect to the U.S. dollar, and abusing workers worldwide in order to save money on a final product. That is not free trade, it is unfair manipulation of an economic situation.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
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