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i say sony since they have such a huge first party development team that continuously pumps out hardcore titles.

the same can be said for nintendo, but their focus nowadays is the casual gamer.

think about it: the casual gamer would hardly care if their console maker left, compared to the hardcore gamer who would be totally devastated.



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it would be bad for the industry if nintendo left because if you look at the sales for each company nintendo has won almost every week since the wii came out. so if nintendo dropped out now the industry would lose the most money. that is the only right answer. every other answer is wrong.



the nintendo wii will outsell the ps3 and the 360 combined by the end of 2008.                           

        PS3 will out sell the 360 june 2010.                                                                      

  GOTY of 2008 is super smash brothers brawl.... hopefully.

END OF 08 PREDICTIONS:

Wii: 45 million         xbox360: 26 million       PS3: 19 million (made beginning of 08)

wii: 44 million         xbox 360: 24 million      PS3: 21 million (made june 08)

wii code: 8094-5344-2140-1400

brawl code: 5412-9565-3232   

Well here's a question.

"What would this generation of videogames be like if Nintendo didn't take the approach that they took or if Nintendo's new approach failed?"



Generation 8 Predictions so far.....(as of 9/2013)

Console that will sell most: Nintendo Wii U

Who will sell more consoles between Microsoft/SONY: SONY

 

Sky Render said:
I see a lot of declarations of "Sony", yet the industry did just fine without them before. There's little to no reason to believe that gaming would not survive on other consoles if there were no PlayStation systems made. Sony did not do anything of note for the industry beyond take it over.

No, it's the loss of Nintendo that would hurt the industry the most. Nintendo resurrected the industry after American companies destroyed it in the early 1980s. They introduced every single sustaining innovation that made it so games could be better (not to be confused with sustaining innovations like the CD or DVD, which ultimately just made it so games could be bigger). Without Nintendo, the industry would have remained dead after 1984. Were Nintendo to leave and no company rise to fill the void of inventiveness that departure created, the industry would collapse within two generations of consoles due to sheer lack of innovation and due to the rehashing of old ideas with only minor updates. Just like it did in 1984.

 

Sony took it to a much greater level, the PS1 & 2 are the best selling consoles of all time



Munkeh111 said:
Sky Render said:
I see a lot of declarations of "Sony", yet the industry did just fine without them before. There's little to no reason to believe that gaming would not survive on other consoles if there were no PlayStation systems made. Sony did not do anything of note for the industry beyond take it over.

No, it's the loss of Nintendo that would hurt the industry the most. Nintendo resurrected the industry after American companies destroyed it in the early 1980s. They introduced every single sustaining innovation that made it so games could be better (not to be confused with sustaining innovations like the CD or DVD, which ultimately just made it so games could be bigger). Without Nintendo, the industry would have remained dead after 1984. Were Nintendo to leave and no company rise to fill the void of inventiveness that departure created, the industry would collapse within two generations of consoles due to sheer lack of innovation and due to the rehashing of old ideas with only minor updates. Just like it did in 1984.

 

Sony took it to a much greater level, the PS1 & 2 are the best selling consoles of all time

 Expanding the market by brute force is not the same as expanding the market by actually including new demographics.  Sony's expansion of the market was largely due to its production capabilities allowing distribution of the PlayStation line in countries that never got video game systems before.  They did not change the industry in any meaningful way, they just made what already existed reach out to new regions.  There's a definite difference there.



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Atari.





lol jk!

Nintendo.



Nintendo



Owner Of: PS1 PS2 PS3 PSP NES GB GBA GC WII XBOX

 

Sky Render said:
I see a lot of declarations of "Sony", yet the industry did just fine without them before. There's little to no reason to believe that gaming would not survive on other consoles if there were no PlayStation systems made. Sony did not do anything of note for the industry beyond take it over.

No, it's the loss of Nintendo that would hurt the industry the most. Nintendo resurrected the industry after American companies destroyed it in the early 1980s. They introduced every single sustaining innovation that made it so games could be better (not to be confused with sustaining innovations like the CD or DVD, which ultimately just made it so games could be bigger). Without Nintendo, the industry would have remained dead after 1984. Were Nintendo to leave and no company rise to fill the void of inventiveness that departure created, the industry would collapse within two generations of consoles due to sheer lack of innovation and due to the rehashing of old ideas with only minor updates. Just like it did in 1984.

 

i disagree. it would be business as usual in my opinion. same with the rest of 'em. sega left, and they were very big as well, yet their departure has done nothing to the industry. it's all about competition. if companies can't compete, that is what will hurt the industry. because there won't be any drive to stand out from the other platform.




I would have to say Nintendo ...

They are probably the only company that is large enough who contains the talent and desire to drasticaly change the direction of the industry. If they left the industry, progress would only be measured in terms that a small (very vocal) segment of the population agreed with and the industry would stagnate and shrink.



DOATS1, do you understand how markets work? I'm guessing not, or you wouldn't claim that the loss of the sole innovator in the industry would result in "business as usual".

Unstable markets (ie. ones that sell goods which are not necessities) require innovation to survive, there's no two ways about it. If you do not innovate, the industry stagnates into a cycle of simply improving what's already there, inevitably leading to either overshooting the market or experiencing severe market drift to the point that the market crashes thanks to a complete lack of any improvement (innovative or sustaining). The video game industry experienced the latter in 1984: game developers stopped innovating, all of the new titles were identical in practice, and the market crashed. An innovative intervention, however, revitalizes the market and gives it a new trajectory (which of course also has an eventual overshooting point).

So I ask you, how would it remain "business as usual" indefinitely if the market relies on innovation to keep from stagnation or overshooting? Without the sole innovator in the industry, how do you expect it would do anything besides shrink, crash, and be reduced to niche status?



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