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luinil on 30 July 2008
Sri Lumpa said:
luinil said:

Eeesh... Remind me to not get horribly sick around you people...

On a side note, we could solve world hunger this way. Euthanize the sick and the old, and feed the remains to the starving and poor. In this way we can solve two problems at once. Get rid of overpopulation and people who would rather be dead, and feed the world's hungry. Sounds great, eh?

Nice trolling strawman:

1) You wouldn't have to worry about us as nobody in this thread* has even hinted at forced euthanasia and it is clear from the various posts that only voluntary euthanasia is being discussed here.

2) Euthanasia has nothing to do with cannibalism so I do not know why would would bring it except to try to do a guilt by association.

Please stop trolling if you do not have anything to contribute to the discussion.

Think about this:

If you had a horse and it fell and broke its leg; knowing their body can't repair such an injury and that it would suffer until it died you would probably do the decent thing and give it a mercy killing, right? So why would you show less compassion to a human being?

*up to the point of my first post anyway, haven't checked since.

How did you come to the conclusion that I was talking about forced euthanasia? O.o

As a side note: its not a troll post, it is satire. There is a difference.

 



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MrBubbles on 30 July 2008
Sri Lumpa said:
MrBubbles said:
im speaking from a moral perspective, not a legal one.

The problem is you only consider the alive/dead angle in your moral choice, not the suffering/not suffering part.

If someone is suffering a horrible pain due to a terminal illness and wants to shorten this horrible suffering via euthanasia how can you consider willfully torturing them by keeping them forcefully alive to be moral?

 

i would harldy be responsible for someones suffering just because i wouldnt murder them.



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Kasz216 on 30 July 2008

So long as people can be diagnosed as mentally healthy they should be allowed to kill themselves.



slimeattack on 30 July 2008

Why should we force anyone to live?



NinjaguyDan on 30 July 2008

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ils411 on 30 July 2008
MrBubbles said:
Sri Lumpa said:
MrBubbles said:
im speaking from a moral perspective, not a legal one.

The problem is you only consider the alive/dead angle in your moral choice, not the suffering/not suffering part.

If someone is suffering a horrible pain due to a terminal illness and wants to shorten this horrible suffering via euthanasia how can you consider willfully torturing them by keeping them forcefully alive to be moral?

 

i would harldy be responsible for someones suffering just because i wouldnt murder them.

 

 

Well, it goes both ways. First, how can you morally ignore the pain and suffering of an individual asking for relief through death? But then, how can you live with yourself knowing that you were actually or had a part in the death of another person?

 Another thing to consider is if this person is related to you or not. If it’s a loved one, would you let him/her suffer or would you let him/her go in peace? So many moral questions, no morally correct answer.



SmokedHostage on 30 July 2008

I think Eusthanasia should be legal in the states. It's much better than traditional suicide imho.



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Sri Lumpa on 30 July 2008
luinil said:
Sri Lumpa said:
luinil said:

Eeesh... Remind me to not get horribly sick around you people...

How did you come to the conclusion that I was talking about forced euthanasia? O.o

As a side note: its not a troll post, it is satire. There is a difference.

The bolded part implies that you think we would forcibly euthanise you if you were sick as if you did want to be euthanised in such circumstances you wouldn't need not to want to be around us whilst sick.

And you did not answer my question with regard to the horse suffering and its relation to human suffering.



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Sri Lumpa on 30 July 2008
MrBubbles said:
Sri Lumpa said:
MrBubbles said:
im speaking from a moral perspective, not a legal one.

The problem is you only consider the alive/dead angle in your moral choice, not the suffering/not suffering part.

If someone is suffering a horrible pain due to a terminal illness and wants to shorten this horrible suffering via euthanasia how can you consider willfully torturing them by keeping them forcefully alive to be moral?

 

i would harldy be responsible for someones suffering just because i wouldnt murder them.

If you force someone to suffer by refusing them the humane alternative when they want it you become responsible for the ongoing suffering even though you were not the original cause.



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lolita on 31 July 2008

I think it should be allowed if the person is suffering and dying and they want it, of course.