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about the gba online, guess in 1 year they are capeble of putting 10 gig on a gba disk so u can upgrade your ds, then they give u 3 sd cards with games u have to install on your 10 gig disk like the good old days with big games like resident evil, and baldurgs gate. :)



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MikeB,

I am glad you are a fan of the Amiga. Seriously they were some of the best PCs of their time but they thrived not only because of gaming though gaming was a part of it. If you wanted to do anything with Video and Sound back then you got an Amiga. this isn't like apple/windows today where neither one does anythign better or faster than the other. Amigas were king of sound synthesization, video editing and playback before mac or apple really embraced it and were well worth the money.

My point the AMIGA was not just a gaming PC it far exceeded the Atari computers and far exceeded the Windows/DOS/apple boxes out there.

The PS3 does not do any of these. When I had my PS3 running I loaded Yellow Dog linux and put up a 1 gig Meg video and encoded it and than did the same on my Core 2 Duo. the PC encoded the 1 hour video to MPEG 2 in 18 minutes the PS3 35 minutes(This by the way was the purpose of the Cell in terms of Design). there are of course memory constraint issues but if their is one thing that has always taken advantage of the multi cores it is video encoding..The power isn't there.

Lest not forget the Cell only has 4 active SPE's and 1 PPE. All seven are not active and all seven will never be active. In order to increase yields early in production Sony had to nip a few SPEs from the required specs so you have 2 dead SPEs wether they work or not.

BTW it should be noted that PS3 encode time for the video is actually better than a 2.8 ghz P4. or 1.6 ghz G5 or AMD athlon 2800+



I think this is interesting to say the least. I think motion sensing is really going to be part of the future of gaming. Sony knows they can't lag too far behind Nintendo in the area and with six axis they already are ahead of Microsoft. My guess is though the PS2 is not where they're going to want to push this. If they did release a motion sensing control how many games would really end up utilizing, and how much longer is the PS2 going to go on strong in sales? I'm saying 90% this rumor is bunk.



What's with the PC dissing? It's got plenty of exclusive games, that are only now getting ported to consoles.

Half Life 2 games are definitive on the PC...I'd honestly say you're stupid to buy those games on a console...it's so perfectly designed for PCs, and the modding capabilities are endless.

Crysis is definitely a "next-gen" PC exclusive.

Honestly...there's a few good exclusive PC games out there...not many, but at least a few.

Most of the appeal for PC games for me is that you can adjust the options and fine-tune graphics as much as you want.  If you have a better computer, you have better graphics...once it's on a console, you can't improve the graphics later.  I played Half Life 2 for the first time on a fairly crappy computer...yet it still looked amazing to me.  Later I got a much better computer, and now the game and it's many Source mods look very good.  

I could turn the same argument back to a PS3 owner and ask what the good-looking, top-notch PS3 exclusives are. I wouldn't get many answers.



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i read on a site this rumor was shot down by sony



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BenKenobi88 said:

What's with the PC dissing? It's got plenty of exclusive games, that are only now getting ported to consoles.

Half Life 2 games are definitive on the PC...I'd honestly say you're stupid to buy those games on a console...it's so perfectly designed for PCs, and the modding capabilities are endless.

Crysis is definitely a "next-gen" PC exclusive.

Honestly...there's a few good exclusive PC games out there...not many, but at least a few.

Most of the appeal for PC games for me is that you can adjust the options and fine-tune graphics as much as you want. If you have a better computer, you have better graphics...once it's on a console, you can't improve the graphics later. I played Half Life 2 for the first time on a fairly crappy computer...yet it still looked amazing to me. Later I got a much better computer, and now the game and it's many Source mods look very good.

I could turn the same argument back to a PS3 owner and ask what the good-looking, top-notch PS3 exclusives are. I wouldn't get many answers.


There's a couple mistakes that people are making, Ben.

First and foremost, there are a LOT of PC exclusives. In fact, looking at the "Exclusive Arms Race", you can see that PC exclusives aren't listed because they would absolutely dwarf the consoles in sheer number of titles -- NOT because there are too few. Of course, this includes mods (such as Counter Strike) and all sorts of little, simple games. 

If we're only going to include games with excellent graphics, then we are effectively saying: "Yeah, PC's have better graphics, but where are the exclusive games? Why would I buy a PC for a smaller games selection?" People should recognize that this precise argument could be turned on the PS3. The exclusive games selection, both current and upcoming, is noticably smaller for the system than the Wii.

So. Sure, the PS3 has better graphics, but where are the exclusive games? Why would I buy a PS3 for a smaller games selection? 

 



Edit: Currently the Exclusive Arms Race page isn't loading for me; that's where the link goes to when the site comes back up though.



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souixan said:
http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/06/sony-ps2-motion.html

 I only read up to this point, but I don't think I need to read any further.



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I am not bringing down the PC Ben. In fact what I am saying is many of biggest hits on consoles are going ot be on the PC. Not the Sony and Nintendo Stuff and not FF13 or MGS4 but stuff like Fallout 3, Halo 3, AC, Lost Planet, and so on are and than the PC gets Starcraft 2 and Conan and The Agency on top that...all of this outside of Crysis. I mean like it or not the PC games will look better than their console counterparts on the right system at a much higher resolution and better framerate.

This is not to put down consoles in the least as their are many games on the consoles the PC will never get but what some people are saying here is true if all you want is the best graphics consoles are a waste of time especially if you only care about resolution(the least important factor with graphics I might add).

The appeal for the Wii outside of PC gaming is a different interface something the PC will not be doing for a while where with the PC you can use teh 360 controller or the PS3 controller and can play PS2 games at a higher rez and with antialiasing and are rendered much better than what the PS3 does to them. BTW I am not talkign about piracy I am talking about actually playing the games you buy from stores.



ALKO said:
MikeB said:
@ ALKO

this is the reason because nintendo controllers are the best


I really didn't like the gamepad for the original NES. I also think the PS1, PS2, PS3 controllers with dual analog sticks works really well. IMO of these controllers the Sixaxis version is the best, due to triggers, being wireless and yes for me even the lack of rumble distraction (I know many people seem to love this feature, however I don't).

basically ps123 pads born from snes one...

so still nintendo is the base where others build...

on the internet there is a genealogical tree of pads.

 

http://www.axess.com/twilight/console/

 

look at exchange of ideas between nintendo and sega...and how microsoft used exp on dreamcast for xbox pad...

then look at sony column...how sad...

 

 

 I don't really think much of that site, here's why:

For "The Nintendo GameCube WaveBird Controller", it says that it is "notable for being the first, best and so far only wireless first-party controller."

...

eh? 

It also says "revolutionary Nintendo 64 controller. I would hardly say it was revolutionary, I mean the thing looked hideous, and was horrible to hold.



One person's experience or opinion never shows the general consensus

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Tispower said:
ALKO said:
MikeB said:
@ ALKO

this is the reason because nintendo controllers are the best


I really didn't like the gamepad for the original NES. I also think the PS1, PS2, PS3 controllers with dual analog sticks works really well. IMO of these controllers the Sixaxis version is the best, due to triggers, being wireless and yes for me even the lack of rumble distraction (I know many people seem to love this feature, however I don't).

basically ps123 pads born from snes one...

so still nintendo is the base where others build...

on the internet there is a genealogical tree of pads.

 

http://www.axess.com/twilight/console/

 

look at exchange of ideas between nintendo and sega...and how microsoft used exp on dreamcast for xbox pad...

then look at sony column...how sad...

 

 

I don't really think much of that site, here's why:

For "The Nintendo GameCube WaveBird Controller", it says that it is "notable for being the first, best and so far only wireless first-party controller."

...

eh?

It also says "revolutionary Nintendo 64 controller. I would hardly say it was revolutionary, I mean the thing looked hideous, and was horrible to hold.


 Well at the time I don't think PS2 or Xbox had official wireless controllers.



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