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mrstickball said:
Onour11 said:

Why?Because I hate MS?...Why should I?

Because of the gaming industry? I don't give a damn about all the losses-money thing....

Because of the gaming community?Exactly...

Past 2 generations was Sony's monopoly but we saw a lot of nice games and played them (Such as res evil-gow-ico etc.)

But I don't think it would be same if those generations was MS's monopoly.Why?Because they want Windows to be everything.And they do not want consoles to replace it.As many of the gamers know after a big war of consoles there is always a monopoly.Now we are witnesses of a war going between Sony-MS(I don't count nintendo cuz that's different) do you think in the next generation this war will go again?I don't think so.

In conclusion if MS can ''conquer'' the console gaming such as Sony did in past 2 generations they will not only have all the console gaming but also the pc gaming.Which means 'massive monopoly' and not good for us gamers.(And this could be very end of the console gaming if you like apocalyptic tales....well just a theory:D)

So these are my thoughts.I just wanted to share them with you.You can disagree if you want.And sorry for bad english...

I think that you aren't understanding that a monopoly is bad if it's held by ANY company:

Nintendo (late 80's, early 90's) - Employed horrendous tactics to ensure 3rd parties never developed on other platforms, and forced retail stores to carry Nintendo products only.

Sony - Forced retail stores to drop used games to court favor with devs (among other things).

Any monopoly - Nintendo, Sony, or MS would inevitably be bad. It would sqash innovation, and cause issues.

But the fact is, Microsoft has done so much good for developers. They've made very easy-to-utilize hardware and SDKs for the developers, and have also been the spearhead of the Digitally Distributed content system for consoles, which is helping independant developers make games for systems that would otherwise get turned down by Sony and Nintendo.

You can argue what Microsoft would do if they were #1, which may, or may not happen. But at the same time, Nintendo, with the DS and Wii aren't exactly going to play nice when they're #1 either.

And the fact is, although we saw "great" games on the PS1/2 that were awesome, fantastic games weren't built because of the Sony Playstation - They were built in spite of it, in some ways. The PS2 archatecture was notorious for being hard to work with, which I am sure caused many developers to go overbudget with their designs (sound familiar?) - And of course, that's not forgetting that we saw great games on the Gamecube, Dreamcast, and Xbox last generation that were equally innovative.

 

 

 I dont think I expected a reasonable post in a thread like this...so wow...kudos to you.



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competition is always good.
anyway sony or nintendo are not going away.
this is A good generation for the consumer.



 

 

 

 

Onour11 said:

Why?Because I hate MS?...Why should I?

Because of the gaming industry? I don't give a damn about all the losses-money thing....

Because of the gaming community?Exactly...

Past 2 generations was Sony's monopoly but we saw a lot of nice games and played them (Such as res evil-gow-ico etc.)

But I don't think it would be same if those generations was MS's monopoly.Why?Because they want Windows to be everything.And they do not want consoles to replace it.As many of the gamers know after a big war of consoles there is always a monopoly.Now we are witnesses of a war going between Sony-MS(I don't count nintendo cuz that's different) do you think in the next generation this war will go again?I don't think so.

In conclusion if MS can ''conquer'' the console gaming such as Sony did in past 2 generations they will not only have all the console gaming but also the pc gaming.Which means 'massive monopoly' and not good for us gamers.(And this could be very end of the console gaming if you like apocalyptic tales....well just a theory:D)

So these are my thoughts.I just wanted to share them with you.You can disagree if you want.And sorry for bad english...

You REALLY need to apologize for bringing us this useless topic.

 



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badgenome said:

Microsoft shouldn't win because you hate it. What a well reasoned argument.

 

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mrstickball said:
Onour11 said:

Why?Because I hate MS?...Why should I?

Because of the gaming industry? I don't give a damn about all the losses-money thing....

Because of the gaming community?Exactly...

Past 2 generations was Sony's monopoly but we saw a lot of nice games and played them (Such as res evil-gow-ico etc.)

But I don't think it would be same if those generations was MS's monopoly.Why?Because they want Windows to be everything.And they do not want consoles to replace it.As many of the gamers know after a big war of consoles there is always a monopoly.Now we are witnesses of a war going between Sony-MS(I don't count nintendo cuz that's different) do you think in the next generation this war will go again?I don't think so.

In conclusion if MS can ''conquer'' the console gaming such as Sony did in past 2 generations they will not only have all the console gaming but also the pc gaming.Which means 'massive monopoly' and not good for us gamers.(And this could be very end of the console gaming if you like apocalyptic tales....well just a theory:D)

So these are my thoughts.I just wanted to share them with you.You can disagree if you want.And sorry for bad english...

I think that you aren't understanding that a monopoly is bad if it's held by ANY company:

Nintendo (late 80's, early 90's) - Employed horrendous tactics to ensure 3rd parties never developed on other platforms, and forced retail stores to carry Nintendo products only.

Sony - Forced retail stores to drop used games to court favor with devs (among other things).

Any monopoly - Nintendo, Sony, or MS would inevitably be bad. It would sqash innovation, and cause issues.

But the fact is, Microsoft has done so much good for developers. They've made very easy-to-utilize hardware and SDKs for the developers, and have also been the spearhead of the Digitally Distributed content system for consoles, which is helping independant developers make games for systems that would otherwise get turned down by Sony and Nintendo.

You can argue what Microsoft would do if they were #1, which may, or may not happen. But at the same time, Nintendo, with the DS and Wii aren't exactly going to play nice when they're #1 either.

And the fact is, although we saw "great" games on the PS1/2 that were awesome, fantastic games weren't built because of the Sony Playstation - They were built in spite of it, in some ways. The PS2 archatecture was notorious for being hard to work with, which I am sure caused many developers to go overbudget with their designs (sound familiar?) - And of course, that's not forgetting that we saw great games on the Gamecube, Dreamcast, and Xbox last generation that were equally innovative.

 

 

Well you're right...I wish this competition should last a few generations so we can play dozens of AAA titles...

And for the people that think this topic is useless I really apologize...are you happy now? Why people are dying to attack you at forums...If this topic is useless...simply do not write a reply.Why you bother?

 



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toastboy44562 said:
fuck this thread

 

 



mrstickball said:

I think that you aren't understanding that a monopoly is bad if it's held by ANY company:

Actually AT&T's monopoly worked very well.  When it was forced to split during divestiture, it F'd up the whole telecom industry and made it worse for customers in price and service.

 



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Onour11 said:

Why?Because I hate MS?...

Yeah, ok, I'll avoid my favorite gaming console this generation because Onour11 hates Microsoft.  I have no brain of my own, why not?



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seece said:

FUnny how M$ have released some of the best games and franchises ever on the xbox/360 and how it takes YEARS for some of the most popular 360 games to appear on PC. Go away.

 

what? please go look at the PC line-up and shut up. The franchises that are "so great" dont measure up to PC's games.



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