Legend11 said: Many fans of other consoles get turned off here and go to forums like Neogaf, etc, instead. Certain games and companies here get slammed here a lot (Halo series and Microsoft for instance) yet if you make negative comments about Nintendo games or the Wii you get placed in the crosshairs of at least one mod and eventually you either get banned or they send you a private message either threatening to ban you and making sure you definately don't feel welcome.

 So true! Long live the VG CHARTZ forum ^^

Oh no!  We will get now both PM's from the mods who threatening to ban us AGAIN!

Nintendo had some if not most of the innovative games ever. I won't say Nintendo brought all the best games to us but if you see Skies Of Arcadia satnding there its a strong suggestion the top ten list has some truth in it.

But apart from that i don't really see the point of adding 'user scores' to the games. This is a site that provides data, aka how much a game sold so we would know that Gears of Wars sold 4.2 million copies and Resistance 1.3. For me that adds some depth to what some people say about some games.

But after all i find it far worse that these days you can't have a discussion about how a game or a console is doing whitout some dudes repeating PR-stuff over and over and over again. Sometimes i think that people own a part of a company and don't want their stock to drop.

Caey said: Nintendo had some if not most of the innovative games ever. I won't say Nintendo brought all the best games to us but if you see Skies Of Arcadia satnding there its a strong suggestion the top ten list has some truth in it.

Hmm maybe true it would be a nice thread to name your 10 most innovative games in history.

I already have three games for me that I call innovative ^^   Kingdom Hearts, Gears Of war, Mario 64 :).

 

konnichiwa said: Caey said: Nintendo had some if not most of the innovative games ever. I won't say Nintendo brought all the best games to us but if you see Skies Of Arcadia satnding there its a strong suggestion the top ten list has some truth in it. Hmm maybe true it would be a nice thread to name your 10 most innovative games in history. I already have three games for me that I call innovative ^^ Kingdom Hearts, Gears Of war, Mario 64 :).

Yes on KH, meh on Gears of War, yes on Mario 64.  Personally I would add in:  Metroid Prime, The Legend of Zelda (the first one), and Wii Sports (love it or hate it).

Anyway, I think it's stupid for people to vote negatively on games they have never played. That's fanboyism at it's worst. It's not just the Nintendo fans though. It's freaking sad that there is NOTHING in the games section above an 8.5. What the hell is this? Are you people so childish that you would go in and vote a 1 for Ocarina of Time, Ratchet and Clank, Twilight Princess, Final Fantasy VII: just so you can bring the score down?! How pathetic is that?! These are great games. If you HAVEN'T PLAYED THE GAME, DON'T VOTE.

konnichiwa said: leo-j said: There are obviously nintendo fanboys here stating that there are more nintendo fans , there games are the best and so on. The best games come on have always been on the ps2 the gamecube lastgen GC only had mario as good games maybe some pokemon games but so wat they werent as big as kingdomhearts, final fantasy, god of war, or even gran turismo. The xbox last gen only had one good game and that was halo, but so on without being "bias" I think that vgchartz isnt really invaded by nintendo fanboys or sony or microsoft, just some.  Xbox had more nice games like NGS, Fable and go on. GC dissapointed me Mario kart thing was not so good like Mario Kart before,  Mario Sunshine was in my opinion one of the worst Mario platforms ever still it had some games I liked but not so much with the incredible PS2  library that surprised me a lot.

 

I cant believe some idiot fanboys in the gamestop reviews on the ps3, they say the ps3 has not even one exclusive title and that microsoft bought them all...,how can gamestop alow fake reviews to be posted? One even said that kingdomhearts, ff xiii was confirmed for 360,and haze was canceled for the ps3 and exclusive to 360 wat is this? When you try to defend the ps3 in a review they deny it, I think there bias...no sreiuously you right a sstupid review stating the 360 is #1 for no resone wat so ever and they accept it but ps3 no they deny it..

leo-j said: konnichiwa said: leo-j said: There are obviously nintendo fanboys here stating that there are more nintendo fans , there games are the best and so on. The best games come on have always been on the ps2 the gamecube lastgen GC only had mario as good games maybe some pokemon games but so wat they werent as big as kingdomhearts, final fantasy, god of war, or even gran turismo. The xbox last gen only had one good game and that was halo, but so on without being "bias" I think that vgchartz isnt really invaded by nintendo fanboys or sony or microsoft, just some. Xbox had more nice games like NGS, Fable and go on. GC dissapointed me Mario kart thing was not so good like Mario Kart before, Mario Sunshine was in my opinion one of the worst Mario platforms ever still it had some games I liked but not so much with the incredible PS2 library that surprised me a lot.   I cant believe some idiot fanboys in the gamestop reviews on the ps3, they say the ps3 has not even one exclusive title and that microsoft bought them all...,how can gamestop alow fake reviews to be posted? One even said that kingdomhearts, ff xiii was confirmed for 360,and haze was canceled for the ps3 and exclusive to 360 wat is this? When you try to defend the ps3 in a review they deny it, I think there bias...no sreiuously you right a sstupid review stating the 360 is #1 for no resone wat so ever and they accept it but ps3 no they deny it..

Gamespot having a 360 bias is old news.  You think they hate the PS3, you should see the crap they write about the Wii.

MikeB said: It seems any console released by Nintendo is regarded higher here than any other effort, also if you look at the game ranking the top 10 is completely dominated by solely Nintendo games, while other fine games for other systems score well below review averages. How come this website is so much Nintendo fan dominated? Did this website receive more coverage on Nintendo community sites or something? BTW, I very much like the PS2 game Jak 3 which on average scored a measly 3 (!) on a scale of 1 to 10 from other VGchartz voters... This doesn't seem right, I recently bought the game based on some lofty media reviews.

 

It might have to do, in some part, that the main operator of this site is a well known Nintendo fan so it's possible Nintendo fans feel more comfortable here.

You know there's something wrong with the voting process when Sonic & The Secret Rings (7.8) gets a better ranking than Halo 2 (7.5).

That's just rabid fanboyism. While many of you may not like Halo, you have to admit that it's a solid game at least. While the Secret Rings was... Um, "not solid", to put it nicely. Yet the Wii factor shoots this game near Forza 2 in ratings and nearly as high as any 360 game released to date. Crap, Sonic beat out Gears, too. That's just DUMB. I also like how there are 54 votes on Blue Dragon. I bet less than 3 people on this site have even PLAYED that game yet.

That's ridiculous. I doubt I'll ever head into the games section of this site again. Users have turned a neat addition into a completely useless waste of my time. Bravo, chaps. Hope you're pleased with yourselves.

I agree with you two as well. When games like Halo 2, Ocarina of Time, and Final Fantasy VII are dropping below 8.5, it's just dumb. People are trolling the games, voting against a game each day, just because it's not on their system. IMO a better thing to do would be to get an agreement with Gamerankings to list their scores on all the games. That would be awesome.

naznatips said: leo-j said: konnichiwa said: leo-j said: There are obviously nintendo fanboys here stating that there are more nintendo fans , there games are the best and so on. The best games come on have always been on the ps2 the gamecube lastgen GC only had mario as good games maybe some pokemon games but so wat they werent as big as kingdomhearts, final fantasy, god of war, or even gran turismo. The xbox last gen only had one good game and that was halo, but so on without being "bias" I think that vgchartz isnt really invaded by nintendo fanboys or sony or microsoft, just some. Xbox had more nice games like NGS, Fable and go on. GC dissapointed me Mario kart thing was not so good like Mario Kart before, Mario Sunshine was in my opinion one of the worst Mario platforms ever still it had some games I liked but not so much with the incredible PS2 library that surprised me a lot.   I cant believe some idiot fanboys in the gamestop reviews on the ps3, they say the ps3 has not even one exclusive title and that microsoft bought them all...,how can gamestop alow fake reviews to be posted? One even said that kingdomhearts, ff xiii was confirmed for 360,and haze was canceled for the ps3 and exclusive to 360 wat is this? When you try to defend the ps3 in a review they deny it, I think there bias...no sreiuously you right a sstupid review stating the 360 is #1 for no resone wat so ever and they accept it but ps3 no they deny it.. Gamespot having a 360 bias is old news.  You think they hate the PS3, you should see the crap they write about the Wii.

 

No sorry I didnt say gamespot I said GAMESTOP the store, you cant put a bd review on 360 they deny it a bad review on the ps3 is  definatly allowed just read wat I poted over again to see wat I mean.