Ugh. I miss the old days of gaming when we played our Genesis and SNES and really didn't even know they were competing.

P.S. If SEGA made a console again, they would take over the market. Then THE WORLD.

The unreal point, was that a system seemingly built for the Unreal engine, runs it just fine, and that at a time when all unreal games ran like absolute ass on a system that seemingly didn't run the engine at all, that had a weaker GPU, and a CPU "not designed for gaming" ran it better. A year after the launch of Gears mind you, but a first for the platform.

That's the point I'm trying to make right there. You could give Epic 100 million dollars and 5 year development time and they WILL make a game that looks better than KZ2 for the 360, but if you game Epic that same 100 million dollars and 5 year dev time on the PS3, it would look better than they're 360 project. The PS3 simply has more space for growth.

See this all depends on what you "hype" yourself for. I hyped myself for a PS3 because the playstations before it have always had those extra hardware features that I've come to love :P The PS3 delivered in spades.

I could be hype for Xbox live because Microsoft does networking after all right? Instead I get a shitty peer to peer service they charge me $50 a year for :/ What the hell happened?

i love how the 360 fanboys praise articles like this.

but when we are given developer commentary about how they use the ps3 to push their games like never before the 360 fanboys just ignore them.

Your wasting your time, they never listen.

They don't like "facts", "evidence" or "coherant arguments"...

...Just too simple...

-Burgles.

so you are saying cause the games that were developed on 360 and ported to PS3 run better on the original ,developed paltform proves that 360 is better than ps3?

for instance just compare burnout paradise that was developed on PS3 and ported to 360,,,the game on PS3 looks better,,,that's a dumb reason to say burn out runs better cause PS3 is way more powerfull,,,

the fact of matter is the game will run better on the platfrom that it was developed for.But lots of gaming dev companies have already announced that they are switching to PS3 as the lead platform so in a year or so (when those game are done)all of those game run much better on PS3.

PS3 is still more than capable than the 360, current games can't prove this.

Many games before UT3 used the unreal engine on the PS3 so it's not fair to call it the first. Secondly isn't that just a testament to how good of a develepor Epic is and not to the architecture of the PS3?

Chrono the argument being made by many PS3 fans is that PS3 is so far ahead of the 360 in terms of hardware that in a years time PS3 games will be unequivecaly better looking and running than 360 games. They would have you belive that the PS3 is just as powerful as today's cutting edge pc's. That is just plain false, hell the difference between the PS3 and 360 isn't even comparable when looking at the difference between the xbox and ps2.

Say you were faced with two rooms filled with gold, the one on the left has 100 lb of gold while the room on the right has 110 lb of gold in it. To get to the gold on the left you simply have to jum over a small pit. To get to the room on the right you have to run through hot coals, dodge poison filled arrows and then fight a dagon. Is that extra 10 lb of gold really worth all the effort?

1.) Yeah a bunch of games ran the UT engine, but man they were heinous xD It wasn't until Sony helped out that the engine became what you would call "presentable", and it was Epic's studio making the PS3 game, not just a licensed version of the engine :D

2.) Oh I hear you on this one, people think the PS3 is lightyears beyond the 360, and well I know it's definitely above it considering how Sony works, it's not lightyears or even another "gen" away. I consider it's technology a good leap beyond that of the 360, but it'll take some time to really see it :P and I understand this. The 360 in my opinion focused on being powerful very early on, and using that to give it it's edge. Sony on the other hand, factored in an insane learning curve, and is currently working with all it's internal studio's to share technology, because they have a whole lot to learn... It'll benefit in the long run, only ok for short term.

And until the PS3 establishes more of a userbase, games will probably just continue to be ported down to it :) And reasonably so. (well not reasonably, but financially I think it makes sense).

And just personal opinion, I think the room on the right has about 140 lbs of gold ;)

This thread just goes to show how trivial the difference in power between the 360 / PS3 really is. Sony fanboys and Sony themselves are always touting how powerful "t3h cell" is, but really any differences between the consoles for this entire generation will barely be noticeable.