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Turns Out Porn Isn't Recession-Proof

By Betsy Schiffman July 21, 2008 | 2:12:55 PM  

In good times and in bad, sin sells; booze, tobacco and sex have all weathered countless economic storms over the centuries.

This recession is a little different, though. It's been extremely challenging for adult filmmakers, who are not only wrestling with anemic consumer spending, they're also competing with a nearly infinite supply of free, amateur videos from countless user-generated sites, not to mention a glut of traditional inventory.

"From my experience, as long as I've been in this business, this is the first time I can say that we're absolutely feeling the effects of the economy," says Steve Orenstein, president and founder of Wicked Pictures, and a 29-year veteran of the adult-entertainment industry. "There was a line we used to use about this business being recession proof. When people talked about the economy, we'd say our business is fine. But look, now you'd have to be blind and deaf not to see that there are problems."

Orenstein hasn't cut any pictures out of the production pipeline -- he still plans on making 48 films this year because, he says, cutting back on pictures would only cut back on his profits. He is, however, looking at ways to reduce expenses, especially since he's facing increased oil-related costs for transportation, distribution and for DVD cases, which are an oil-based product. And raising prices to cover the added costs is out of the question, given the economic environment.

"We haven't laid anyone off or cut any salaries, but we're trying to be smarter -- cut the things we probably should have cut ten years ago," says Orenstein.

Even if Wicked Pictures has felt the pinch, Orenstein suspects he's better off than most, since Wicked caters to women and couples -- who are more likely to buy DVDs than single men.

Many others aren't quite as fortunate.

"At the retail level, all the store owners I've talked to say their rental sales are off 10 percent to 15 percent," says Paul Fishbein, founder of Adult Video News, an industry trade group. "Producers say sales are down at least that much. We've identified the reasons we think sales are down. First and foremost, there's a glut of product. The laws of supply and demand have been turned upside down. We're on par to put out 15,000 new releases this year, which is just insane. Secondly, there's a battle with pirated or free material on the internet -- much like the music industry, adult [movie] producers are trying to figure out how to stem free or pirated content."

It's not so dissimilar from technological disruptions in previous decades -- such as when porn transitioned from film to video. This time, though, it's a quadruple whammy. DVD sales apparently topped last year -- overall, DVD sales in the first quarter hit $5.6 billion, down 0.3 percent from the same period a year ago, according to Video Business.com.

"DVD sales are flat to slightly negative, while rentals are going down at about 5 percent per year," says Gerry Kaufhold, an analyst with market research firm InStat. "One thing that's probably smacking the rental business is gas prices -- you have to pick up a movie up on Friday and drive it back to drop it off on Sunday. And the rental business has probably been hurt as much by other factors -- prices for Lexan, the raw material used to make plastic discs, is going up since it's an oil-based product. The plastic jewel cases are more expensive. And adult filmmakers aren't just competing with the internet -- they're competing with subscription services and pay-per-view."

But even if in-store rentals are taking a hit, online rental service SugarDVD says business is growing, month over month.

"We're finding consumers don't want to pay $30 or $40 apiece for DVDs when they can subscribe and get DVDs in the mail. Prices are often higher for adult DVDs, and sometimes people don't want an extensive library of adult titles -- there are some movies that are great to see once or twice, but you don't want to own it. It's really changed the dynamics of the industry. Studios must innovate or start distributing digitally," says Tony Medrano, vice president of business development at SugarDVD.

SugarDVD has also stayed ahead of the curve -- the site launched a streaming service two years ago -- roughly a year before Netflix. It also offers a pay-per-minute service, which, depending on the movie, starts at 7 cents per minute.

"We constantly have to innovate," says Medrano. "We need to get out in front of consumer demand."

Photo: Reuters/Steve Marcus

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Kind of off-topic, but does anyone find it creepy/slightly entertaining how the high-ups in these porn companies talk about their industry so casually and seriously? I know it's just like any other business and they have to have a smart plan, but it's just funny to hear them say with a serious tone, "We constantly have to innovate, we need to get out in front of consumer demand."



Broncos724 said:
Kind of off-topic, but does anyone find it creepy/slightly entertaining how the high-ups in these porn companies talk about their industry so casually and seriously? I know it's just like any other business and they have to have a smart plan, but it's just funny to hear them say with a serious tone, "We constantly have to innovate, we need to get out in front of consumer demand."

 

 Thats one of the reasons I posted this, it reminded me of the gaming industry.



Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello"      R.I.P AC Milan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

Of course Porn isn't recession proof. With the power of your imagination like I learned in Sesame Street, I don't need to pay for porn. That and the huge amount of free porn on the internet makes it the first luxury to go when money is tight.



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Torillian said:
Of course Porn isn't recession proof. With the power of your imagination like I learned in Sesame Street, I don't need to pay for porn. That and the huge amount of free porn on the internet makes it the first luxury to go when money is tight.

 

Haha there are plenty.  I don't want to link any because of the age of people on this site and I would most likely get banned for it. 

Maybe these Companies should invest in the free sites, advertising that is.



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Broncos724 said:
Kind of off-topic, but does anyone find it creepy/slightly entertaining how the high-ups in these porn companies talk about their industry so casually and seriously? I know it's just like any other business and they have to have a smart plan, but it's just funny to hear them say with a serious tone, "We constantly have to innovate, we need to get out in front of consumer demand."

By "innovate", he means getting more penises in a woman at the same time. And it's like what the B-52's sang: "Flash video killed the DVD-star. In my mind and in my Heart. Oh o o ohhh."

I have a feeling piracy has as much to do with it as anything. *cough* People have told me that it's easy to find free porn on the internet without having to pay for it.



who pays for porn anymore ? most of us only need free 5 min clips or samples and we done leave the site....



brawl4life said:
who pays for porn anymore ? most of us only need free 5 min clips or samples and we done leave the site....

You better not make those 5 min a habit, it will backfire when you have a partner ;)

 



Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello"      R.I.P AC Milan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

vaio said:
brawl4life said:
who pays for porn anymore ? most of us only need free 5 min clips or samples and we done leave the site....

You better not make those 5 min a habit, it will backfire when you have a partner ;)

 

 

lol i'm just saying the majority >.<