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Sansui on 21 July 2008

Hard to say.... Back when Fox and Warner were just about ready to side with HD DVD, Sony paid off Fox with 120 million to go blu ray. Warner followed suit and got 400 million in payouts.

If MS's console had been vested in HDDVD, maybe there would have been significant counteroffers, or maybe with the year headstart of the xbox, the install base would have tipped the other companies earlier.
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SpartanFX on 21 July 2008

I just have one question,,,,

why on earth MS would make its console 200 dollar more expensive (and almost kill xbox brand)to help Toshiba???

HD dvd is a technology owned by Toshiba not MS.So all the losses absorbed by MS is just helping Toshiba and not MS.

bluray one the other hand is owned by Sony,,so it would be justified for sony to suffer the beginning losses in hope of big royalties in future.



 

 

 

tuoyo on 21 July 2008

I think it definitely would have although 360 sales would have been much much lower than they are. So Microsoft made the right decision.



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Aj_habfan on 21 July 2008
Sansui said:
Hard to say.... Back when Fox and Warner were just about ready to side with HD DVD, Sony paid off Fox with 120 million to go blu ray. Warner followed suit and got 400 million in payouts.

If MS's console had been vested in HDDVD, maybe there would have been significant counteroffers, or maybe with the year headstart of the xbox, the install base would have tipped the other companies earlier.

 

LOL, I guarantee you if they were about to join the side that was getting owned in sales every week, they would have been paid more then 120 million and 400 million each.



jman8 on 21 July 2008
Sansui said:
Hard to say.... Back when Fox and Warner were just about ready to side with HD DVD, Sony paid off Fox with 120 million to go blu ray. Warner followed suit and got 400 million in payouts.

If MS's console had been vested in HDDVD, maybe there would have been significant counteroffers, or maybe with the year headstart of the xbox, the install base would have tipped the other companies earlier.

 

Fox joined the Blu-ray association years earlier than Warner. And those payouts are dubious at best.



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dbot on 21 July 2008
Sansui said:
Hard to say.... Back when Fox and Warner were just about ready to side with HD DVD, Sony paid off Fox with 120 million to go blu ray. Warner followed suit and got 400 million in payouts.

If MS's console had been vested in HDDVD, maybe there would have been significant counteroffers, or maybe with the year headstart of the xbox, the install base would have tipped the other companies earlier.

I think you need to provide a link to the above statement. 

Maybe you are confused by the 150 million that Microsoft paid to Paramount for exclusive HDDVD support.  My link -> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/21/technology/21disney.html?fta=y 

 



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puertoecuanama on 21 July 2008

they made the right decision
blu-ray most likely would have beaten them anyway
plus, why sacrifice the xbox franchise to something made by toshiba?



                 


 

thetonestarr on 21 July 2008
SpartanFX said:
I just have one question,,,,

why on earth MS would make its console 200 dollar more expensive (and almost kill xbox brand)to help Toshiba???

HD dvd is a technology owned by Toshiba not MS.So all the losses absorbed by MS is just helping Toshiba and not MS.

bluray one the other hand is owned by Sony,,so it would be justified for sony to suffer the beginning losses in hope of big royalties in future.

 

Owned by Sony? Really?

 

Then why does Sony not own the Blu-Ray Disc Association that created it?

 

Sony does not own Blu-Ray, they merely spearheaded the group that created it, and obviously have the most money sunk into it.



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SpartanFX on 21 July 2008
thetonestarr said:
SpartanFX said:
I just have one question,,,,

why on earth MS would make its console 200 dollar more expensive (and almost kill xbox brand)to help Toshiba???

HD dvd is a technology owned by Toshiba not MS.So all the losses absorbed by MS is just helping Toshiba and not MS.

bluray one the other hand is owned by Sony,,so it would be justified for sony to suffer the beginning losses in hope of big royalties in future.

 

Owned by Sony? Really?

 

Then why does Sony not own the Blu-Ray Disc Association that created it?

 

Sony does not own Blu-Ray, they merely spearheaded the group that created it, and obviously have the most money sunk into it.

I meant invented blu-ray,,,,,and they formed the association to ensure that blu ray would not go the way of betamax.

 



 

 

 

Kasz216 on 21 July 2008
SpartanFX said:
I just have one question,,,,

why on earth MS would make its console 200 dollar more expensive (and almost kill xbox brand)to help Toshiba???

HD dvd is a technology owned by Toshiba not MS.So all the losses absorbed by MS is just helping Toshiba and not MS.

bluray one the other hand is owned by Sony,,so it would be justified for sony to suffer the beginning losses in hope of big royalties in future.

 

Sony only owns about 30% of the IP. Which makes them the lead owner... but not by any huge margin.