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LordTheNightKnight on 04 December 2007
ProfDallas said:
Don't worry, the nastier knight gets, the worse he thinks that his side is doing.

Sorry, but lying that my side is HD-DVD won't make HD-DVD fail. My side is that this format war isn't ending soon, and that it doesn't have to end. Posting a bunch of articles unrelated to the actual growth of hi-def won't prove me wrong.



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rudyrsr8 on 04 December 2007

The main disadvantage for Blueray is that they dont allow Porno and we all know porn is 65% of the video market. lol

If you didnt know i was trying to b funny.



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makingmusic476 on 04 December 2007
LordTheNightKnight said:
makingmusic476 said:
Michael Bay's thoughts on the format war (from Michael Bay's forum):

What you don't understand is corporate politics. Microsoft wants both formats to fail so they can be heroes and make the world move to digital downloads. That is the dirty secret no one is talking about. That is why Microsoft is handing out $100 million dollar checks to studios just embrace the HD DVD and not the leading, and superior Blu Ray. They want confusion in the market until they perfect the digital downloads. Time will tell and you will see the truth.


Michael Bay, Steven Spielberg, and Ridley Scott have all been very pro-Blu-Ray from the start. It's most likely because, as Directors, they feel that the added capacity and higher bitrates of Blu-Ray will lead to a better representation of their films.

So it will be really interesting to see if the 3 layer HD-DVD changes this, assuming your guess is correct.


 That doesn't solve the bitrate limitation.



leo-j on 04 December 2007

Why do they need 200gigs for movies? Or even games?

50gigs is too much.

25gigs is more than enough.



 

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Diomedes1976 on 04 December 2007

Some interesting facts posted by IGN


Total sales of Blu-ray movies in the US topped the 4 million mark in November. It took 10 months for Blu-ray Disc sales to top 1 million, just over three months to reach the two million, less than 3 months to reach three million and just over 2 months to reach the four million. Despite a significant head start in the market, HD DVD didn't pass the 2.5 million mark until the middle of November.

Year-to-date (through Nov. 25), Blu-ray movie titles have outsold HD DVD in the US by a 2-to-1 margin.

Of the top 20 high-definition titles in the US this year, 18 are available on Blu-ray.

Blu-ray movie have 73% of the market in Europe – outselling HD DVD by a 3-to-1 margin according to sales data provided by Media Control Gfk International.

Blu-ray's share of the HD recorder market in Japan is now 95% as of the week ending November 12, 2007, according to Media Control Gfk International.



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LordTheNightKnight on 04 December 2007
makingmusic476 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
makingmusic476 said:
Michael Bay's thoughts on the format war (from Michael Bay's forum):

What you don't understand is corporate politics. Microsoft wants both formats to fail so they can be heroes and make the world move to digital downloads. That is the dirty secret no one is talking about. That is why Microsoft is handing out $100 million dollar checks to studios just embrace the HD DVD and not the leading, and superior Blu Ray. They want confusion in the market until they perfect the digital downloads. Time will tell and you will see the truth.


Michael Bay, Steven Spielberg, and Ridley Scott have all been very pro-Blu-Ray from the start. It's most likely because, as Directors, they feel that the added capacity and higher bitrates of Blu-Ray will lead to a better representation of their films.

So it will be really interesting to see if the 3 layer HD-DVD changes this, assuming your guess is correct.


That doesn't solve the bitrate limitation.


Yes it does. Blu-ray's higher bitrates come from the higher capacity. 



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Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

ProfDallas on 04 December 2007

It's also going to make hd-dud movies more expensive



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endurance on 04 December 2007
leo-j said:
Why do they need 200gigs for movies? Or even games?

50gigs is too much.

25gigs is more than enough.

yeah 200 is just to much



makingmusic476 on 04 December 2007
LordTheNightKnight said:
makingmusic476 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
makingmusic476 said:
Michael Bay's thoughts on the format war (from Michael Bay's forum):

What you don't understand is corporate politics. Microsoft wants both formats to fail so they can be heroes and make the world move to digital downloads. That is the dirty secret no one is talking about. That is why Microsoft is handing out $100 million dollar checks to studios just embrace the HD DVD and not the leading, and superior Blu Ray. They want confusion in the market until they perfect the digital downloads. Time will tell and you will see the truth.


Michael Bay, Steven Spielberg, and Ridley Scott have all been very pro-Blu-Ray from the start. It's most likely because, as Directors, they feel that the added capacity and higher bitrates of Blu-Ray will lead to a better representation of their films.

So it will be really interesting to see if the 3 layer HD-DVD changes this, assuming your guess is correct.


That doesn't solve the bitrate limitation.


Yes it does. Blu-ray's higher bitrates come from the higher capacity.


Indirectly it does, because of the way data is stored from the disc.  However, the 51gb HD DVD disc simply adds another layer to increase storage.  The method of storing the data has not changed. 

Does a dual-layered HD DVD have a higher bitrate than a single-layered HD DVD? No.



LordTheNightKnight on 04 December 2007
makingmusic476 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
makingmusic476 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
makingmusic476 said:
Michael Bay's thoughts on the format war (from Michael Bay's forum):

What you don't understand is corporate politics. Microsoft wants both formats to fail so they can be heroes and make the world move to digital downloads. That is the dirty secret no one is talking about. That is why Microsoft is handing out $100 million dollar checks to studios just embrace the HD DVD and not the leading, and superior Blu Ray. They want confusion in the market until they perfect the digital downloads. Time will tell and you will see the truth.


Michael Bay, Steven Spielberg, and Ridley Scott have all been very pro-Blu-Ray from the start. It's most likely because, as Directors, they feel that the added capacity and higher bitrates of Blu-Ray will lead to a better representation of their films.

So it will be really interesting to see if the 3 layer HD-DVD changes this, assuming your guess is correct.


That doesn't solve the bitrate limitation.


Yes it does. Blu-ray's higher bitrates come from the higher capacity.


Indirectly it does, because of the way data is stored from the disc. However, the 51gb HD DVD disc simply adds another layer to increase storage. The method of storing the data has not changed.

Does a dual-layered HD DVD have a higher bitrate than a single-layered HD DVD? No.


It's not about method. It's about FILE SIZE. Same capacity, equals same file size, equals same bitrate. Duh.

Okay, loading speed also matters, but that's moot since HD-DVD and blu-ray have 36mbs loading at 1x speed, and the best bitrate, that still allows more than two hours of 1080p video within 50GB, is just 24mbs (what blu-ray is running right now). 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs