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Saiyar said:

This weeks numbers. Spiderman 3 Vs $99 player

week 71:29
Ytd 64:36
Si 61:39

1 Spider-Man 3 BD 100.00
2. Spider-Man: The High Definition Trilogy BD 71.95
3. Transformers HD 31.42
4. Meet the Robinsons BD 8.82
5. 300 BD 6.56
6. Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer BD 5.03
7. License to Wed BD 4.24
8. The Shining BD 4.11
9. Mr. Brooks BD 4.03
10. 2001: A Space Odyssey BD 3.88

 

Spiderman 3 sold 130k making it the second fastest seller after 300 BD.

Spiderman 3 + boxset sold around 220k copies, a little more than 300 BD + HD DVD.

Transformers got a boost from the cheap players, about 50% increase.

 

On the web, there is the term "Link/Pic, or it didn't happen." It's not saying it didn't actually happen, just pointing out burden of proof.

Still, link, or it didn't happen. 



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LordTheNightKnight said:
Saiyar said:

This weeks numbers. Spiderman 3 Vs $99 player

week 71:29
Ytd 64:36
Si 61:39

1 Spider-Man 3 BD 100.00
2. Spider-Man: The High Definition Trilogy BD 71.95
3. Transformers HD 31.42
4. Meet the Robinsons BD 8.82
5. 300 BD 6.56
6. Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer BD 5.03
7. License to Wed BD 4.24
8. The Shining BD 4.11
9. Mr. Brooks BD 4.03
10. 2001: A Space Odyssey BD 3.88

 

Spiderman 3 sold 130k making it the second fastest seller after 300 BD.

Spiderman 3 + boxset sold around 220k copies, a little more than 300 BD + HD DVD.

Transformers got a boost from the cheap players, about 50% increase.

 

On the web, there is the term "Link/Pic, or it didn't happen." It's not saying it didn't actually happen, just pointing out burden of proof.

Still, link, or it didn't happen.

 

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/questex/hom111107/index.php

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136356&page=399

http://www.n4g.com/tech/News-82093.aspx

weezy said:
This thread fails like most of your insignificant lives


ROFL im just joking but this thread needs to be over and done.

you dare 2 defile me^^? Like this thread cause of  its insignificance : DVD OWNS ALL



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LordTheNightKnight said:
http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=9825&start=0
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So it seems the CEO of Sony is being more cautious about this format war than so many loudmouths. He evidently knows the blu-ray isn't guaranteed to win, and that blu-ray will have to work hard to be the next format, not just act at though it is somehow entitled to it.

Sony CEO Howard Stinger said he wishes HD-DVD and BD would have combined forces and doesn't believe Blu Ray will win soon.  If ever.



Saiyar said:

This weeks numbers. Spiderman 3 Vs $99 player

week 71:29
Ytd 64:36
Si 61:39

1  Spider-Man 3 BD 100.00
2. Spider-Man: The High Definition Trilogy BD 71.95
3. Transformers HD 31.42
4. Meet the Robinsons BD 8.82
5. 300 BD 6.56
6. Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer BD 5.03
7. License to Wed BD 4.24
8. The Shining BD 4.11
9. Mr. Brooks BD 4.03
10. 2001: A Space Odyssey BD 3.88

 

Spiderman 3 sold 130k making it the second fastest seller after 300 BD. 

Spiderman 3 + boxset sold around 220k copies, a little more than 300 BD + HD DVD.

Transformers got a boost from the cheap players, about 50% increase.


Only 1 HDDVD movie in the top 10 for HD discs....impressive

BD selling 71% of HD movies..... impressive (without the sarcasm)



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I think Dallas might be a spokesperson for BDA, or he might be hd4idol or something in other forums. :)

BTW, neilsen numbers do not include Walmart and it's up to last friday i believe? How bout those 3 HD DVDs that come with all those sold out HD-A3 players from best buy and circuit city last saturday through tuesday? Holiday season is key! not one week of data. :)

Also, transformers first week, say 115-190k since neilsen again does not include all retailers, install base of 320k + say 200k for add-ons (and before the 90k additional from last week) = 22%-37% of people who owned HD DVD players/add-on bought Transformers.

2.2million PS3s + some standalone, let's jsut say 2.3mill. 130k (take higher estimate quoted by SONY) = 5.7%...um...is it really something to be proud of even if they are no.1 this week?  As soon as more HD DVD hardware hits the home of mass consumers, softwares will follow.



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ProfDallas said:
Saiyar said:

This weeks numbers. Spiderman 3 Vs $99 player

week 71:29
Ytd 64:36
Si 61:39

1 Spider-Man 3 BD 100.00
2. Spider-Man: The High Definition Trilogy BD 71.95
3. Transformers HD 31.42
4. Meet the Robinsons BD 8.82
5. 300 BD 6.56
6. Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer BD 5.03
7. License to Wed BD 4.24
8. The Shining BD 4.11
9. Mr. Brooks BD 4.03
10. 2001: A Space Odyssey BD 3.88

 

Spiderman 3 sold 130k making it the second fastest seller after 300 BD.

Spiderman 3 + boxset sold around 220k copies, a little more than 300 BD + HD DVD.

Transformers got a boost from the cheap players, about 50% increase.


Only 1 HDDVD movie in the top 10 for HD discs....impressive

BD selling 71% of HD movies..... impressive (without the sarcasm)


At this stage in the game, sales numbers are so tiny that they don't motivate anyone to do anything.  In fact, the exclusive contracts are all about posturing, and if HD sales made up any significant portion of the overall sales then movie studios would not sign exclusive contracts and would release with both formats.  Even if one format only made up 15% of the total sales, it would be enough for them to forgo even generous contracts to release both types.

HD-DVDs sales will certainly increase this holiday season.  Especially when big releases come out.  However, sales will still be miniscule compared to regular DVD sales overall (in specific cases, perhaps not, but on the whole absolutely).  There is no reason to believe the format war will be over in less than two or three years, *even* if HD players pick up sales-wise by then.  At the moment, standalone DVD players are drastically outselling HD players. Until this changes, HD will be a niche. 



That's why the $99 price point is vitally important to the race. At $99 a person will choose an HD player over a DVD player. I think it's pretty clear that HD-DVD will reach this price point far sooner than Blu-ray.



Actually, with the price cuts expected I think that the combined formats will sale at about 10% of the numbers of movies by Feb.

It's about 5% now so that won't be too far off given a price cut.



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FishyJoe said:
That's why the $99 price point is vitally important to the race. At $99 a person will choose an HD player over a DVD player. I think it's pretty clear that HD-DVD will reach this price point far sooner than Blu-ray.

That is probably true, but do you really think that Sony is going to passively sit back and not discount its players as well? I am not sure that you actually beleive this but if you do, or if you think that this $99 price point is the be-all of the format war then you really aren't thinking at anything more than a superficial level. 

Historically, Sony has tightened the gap with the ratio of its price to the Toshiba players prices.

1.  The original BD player was $1300, while the cheapest Tosh player was $500 at the time.  There was a 2.3 ratio of price from BD to the Tosh player.

2.  Then Tosh dropped the price of its player to about $250 and sony dropped the prices of its entry level players to $500 brining the ratio down to 2, with a price DIFFERENCE of only $250. 

The point is that as both sides bring prices down, the difference in pricing is going to decrease, therefore giving Toshiba less and less of an advantage in terms of pricing.



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Oh, and I'm still the next Michael Pachter