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steven787 on 29 July 2007
akuma587 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
dallas said:

I just saw Home Media Magazine's BD vs HDDVD sales for the week ending 7/22.... blu ray has sold 74% of the high def DVDs....HDDVD has sold 26% this last week.

It looks like BD is winning a lot faster than I expected it to. =)

 

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/questex/hom072907/index.php?startpage=0


And are the films selling better? If they aren't, that's just one number. Average sales and percentiles are just as important.


 This post doesn't make any sense at all to me, and I tried to figure out what you were trying to say.  With numbers like 74% to 26%, how could Blu-Ray films not be selling better, based on averages or what ever method you want to use?  


Because most HDDVD players are owned by movie buffs, where as most Bluray players are owned by Gamers.  Think attach rates.  Less HD-DVD owners by more movies per drive.  However, Bluray has passed HD DVD and all studios care about is total sales, not attach rate.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

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kber81 on 29 July 2007
steven787 said:

Because most HDDVD players are owned by movie buffs, where as most Bluray players are owned by Gamers. Think attach rates. Less HD-DVD owners by more movies per drive. However, Bluray has passed HD DVD and all studios care about is total sales, not attach rate.


I don't believe it's still true. Many users who expected HD DVD to win and bought a player last year for sure but right now if someone really cares abuot movies Blu Ray is an only option. Lack of Hollywood support, small capacity, unsure future, higher price (HD DVD + DVD combos = WTF?) - it's more than enough for aware costumer to cross out HD-DVD.




steven787 on 29 July 2007
kber81 said:
steven787 said:

Because most HDDVD players are owned by movie buffs, where as most Bluray players are owned by Gamers. Think attach rates. Less HD-DVD owners by more movies per drive. However, Bluray has passed HD DVD and all studios care about is total sales, not attach rate.


I don't believe it's still true. Many users who expected HD DVD to win and bought a player last year for sure but right now if someone really cares abuot movies Blu Ray is an only option. Lack of Hollywood support, small capacity, unsure future, higher price (HD DVD + DVD combos = WTF?) - it's more than enough for aware costumer to cross out HD-DVD.

 


I agree, 100%.   I meant that HD-DVD's don't sell as many discs because there are just so many Bluray/PS3 owners.  The HD-DVD attach rate is still higher, and current sales are propped up by big releases like The Matrix.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

dallas on 02 August 2007

Hitachi unveils the worlds first camcorder that records to a HD disc, only for the BD so far.

http://www.hitachi.com/New/cnews/070802.html



scorptile on 02 August 2007

wasnt the beta vcr's backed by alot of companies as well?? and btw hd dvd's should be around 100-150 by xmas



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akuma587 on 02 August 2007
scorptile said:
wasnt the beta vcr's backed by alot of companies as well?? and btw hd dvd's should be around 100-150 by xmas

People don't care if they can't watch the movies they want to see. That is why my friends who work in electronics stores tell me they see 33-50% of all HD-DVD players they sell returned. Whenever they find out they can't play a big name movie like Pirates of the Carribean, they aren't exactly happy. The Nutty Professor 2 just doesn't cut it.

And what you said about Beta is also untrue.  VHS had more supporters, which is one of the reasons why Beta lost. 



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leo-j on 02 August 2007

I told some 360 fanboys not to waste there money on an hd dvd and blu-ray player until there is a clear winner, and if your going to buy a high def player get blu-ray since it looks like its winning, and they told me to go" F off stupid sony fan boy" Even though I didnt even mention anything about the ps or xbox..



 

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WiteoutKing on 02 August 2007

Blu-Ray is Sony's baby, and you told 360 fanboys not to get an HD-DVD player, but rather a Blu-Ray because it was beating HD-DVD. What did you expect? :P



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

chuckd on 02 August 2007

Rob Wright of TwitchGuru (Tom's Hardware) reports from comic-con.

 

http://www.twitchguru.com/2007/08/01/hd_format/ 



Lost tears of Kain on 06 August 2007

all up to the mobs, but if blueray does eventually takeover good news for sony



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