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megaman79 on 12 July 2008

If you cant get super fast internet what r u doing with a HD tv. It doesn't make sense and you wouldn't need a BlueRay player. Im not buying in to it, and i believe downloads 4 sure will affect all disc sales, whether games, movies on dvd or blueray. Its slow moving because people don't see the point of extra pixels. Maybe its like the Wii thing in that respect. Also i really doubt Sony have an interest in downloadable content, movies especially or games, because the disc tech allows them to charge more than usual for the same damn product.
I almost bought a PS2 bcoz of the dvd, and i will almost buy a PS3 bcoz of blueray, almost. Probably not



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iclim4 on 12 July 2008
makingmusic476 said:
cwbys21 said:
Apollo said:
500%?........that means its 1% closer to replacing DVDs...lol.
lets face it, DVDs will never be replaced with Bluray.
too many people are downloading movies these days. when DVDs came out in 1998, nobody was downloading films.
but in 2008, the credit crunch means people are cutting back on entertainment.
movies, music, its all downloadable now. and we all know it.

 

You do realize not everyone in the world (or even in western countries) live in a highly populated area that gets super fast reliable internet for reasonable prices right?  In fact only a very small percentage are able to, and because of that downloading isn't nearly as popular or accessable and some on this site seem to think.

 

Even in the US many places only have access to dial-up, and the places that have access to broadband are usually charged exorbitant prices.

Japan gets over 10x our average internet speed and they pay less on average!

It'll be years before broadband penetration is high enough for digital distribution to take over.  Even if the speeds were available, they'd have to be at low enough prices for people to consider adoption.  And even at current broadband speeds 720p films take hours to downloa, let alone 1080p films.

Not to meantion the harddrives needed to store all the movies purchased.

Don't get me wrong, I believe digital distribution will become mainstream, in a decade or so.  




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cwbys21 on 12 July 2008
makingmusic476 said:
cwbys21 said:
Apollo said:
500%?........that means its 1% closer to replacing DVDs...lol.
lets face it, DVDs will never be replaced with Bluray.
too many people are downloading movies these days. when DVDs came out in 1998, nobody was downloading films.
but in 2008, the credit crunch means people are cutting back on entertainment.
movies, music, its all downloadable now. and we all know it.

 

You do realize not everyone in the world (or even in western countries) live in a highly populated area that gets super fast reliable internet for reasonable prices right?  In fact only a very small percentage are able to, and because of that downloading isn't nearly as popular or accessable and some on this site seem to think.

 

Even in the US many places only have access to dial-up, and the places that have access to broadband are usually charged exorbitant prices.

Japan gets over 10x our average internet speed and they pay less on average!

It'll be years before broadband penetration is high enough for digital distribution to take over.  Even if the speeds were available, they'd have to be at low enough prices for people to consider adoption.  And even at current broadband speeds 720p films take hours to download, let alone 1080p films.

The reason Japan is able to get faster internet for less is because it is so small and so highly populated.  They can lay the fiber optics lines for everybody to connect into and not have to worry about expanding it so some remote region because no matter where you are you are a short drive away from a big city.  Unlike say Colorado where you could have super fast internet in Denver, and then what other big city is there where it is feasible to lay those lines and get your money back?  Lets not even talk about states like Montana, Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wyoming.  Minnesota has the twin cities and pretty much nothing else.  Washington has Seattle and nothing else.  Oregon has Portland.  Nevada has Reno and Vegas.  Utah has Salt Lake City.  That is a lot of area to cover and only one big city in each state that it would be feasible for super high speed internet.  Even California, as populated as it is, is a very big state and would only maybe be worth the lines for super high speed in the southern end in Los Angelos and San Diego.  The only place where there is big populations in a small area for this kind of thing is in the north east, Boston, New York, Baltimore, Washington DC, Philidelphia.



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cwbys21 on 12 July 2008
megaman79 said:
If you cant get super fast internet what r u doing with a HD tv. It doesn't make sense and you wouldn't need a BlueRay player. Im not buying in to it, and i believe downloads 4 sure will affect all disc sales, whether games, movies on dvd or blueray. Its slow moving because people don't see the point of extra pixels. Maybe its like the Wii thing in that respect. Also i really doubt Sony have an interest in downloadable content, movies especially or games, because the disc tech allows them to charge more than usual for the same damn product.
I almost bought a PS2 bcoz of the dvd, and i will almost buy a PS3 bcoz of blueray, almost. Probably not

 

is it sad that I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not?  If it is sarcasm, haha?  If it isn't, you need to get out of your basement, and take a trip out of which ever big city you live in.



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flagship on 12 July 2008
dbot said:
There will be a need for disc based delivery systems for decades to come. For the next decade Blu-ray will be that delivery system. As more manufacturers market and produce Blu-ray players the cost of the PS3 will drop substantially. At launch it was estimated the Blu-ray drive cost roughly $350 now you can buy an internal drive for $150. Sony will make money on Blu-ray and they are in a position to capitalize on movie downloads as well.

Except of course that the average person who needs disk data really only needs the capacity of a CD or at best a couple gig thumb drive, most pictures, word files and other files don't take up a whole lot of room. Most buisness software and presentations still fit easily on a CD and for long term data storage 50gb is pretty pathetic compared to terabit harddrives.  

This is why DVDs themselves were sold to the public as a superior movie format, very few people today let alone 1998 need the transportable storage capcity offered. The problem of course with blu-ray is that the new superior movie format isn't that much better.



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kenzomatic on 12 July 2008

So this year I-tunes will have more the 20 million movies downloaded this year in the US

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20080620/bs_nf/60387;_ylt=AkwgULji_brjuW0kALZ6cKQjtBAF
"50,000 movies every day"

Acording to this
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/blu-ray-discs-production-surge-expected-december/
Blu-Ray so far has sold 11 million in the US

So yeah blu-ray doesn't have any competition.



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akuma587 on 12 July 2008

Yeah, Blu-Ray is actually fairing better than DVD did during this timeframe, which really started taking off about 3 years since its inception (2000-2001). DVD did have more titles to its name by this point though. The format war is part of the cause of that.



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akuma587 on 12 July 2008

Note: To those who thing downloads are the next big thing, they are, just not LEGAL downloads that people are willing to PAY for.

Hell, Apple is intentionally selling their movies for a LOSS on their download service since the market is so bad.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

kenzomatic on 12 July 2008

The nay sayers are the same as those who said music downloads would never work and people wouldn't be willing to pay.

Of-course now I-tunes is the biggest music retailer in the world.

Right now movie downloads are still in their infancy, I don't think anyone really believes this is not the future though. The question is how long before this is the standard 10 years 20?

Blu-ray has a lot of competition from DVD and Downloads, the only real thing that has made its life easy is the fact its not an Alien format ie. a disc.



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cwbys21 on 12 July 2008

um, song, 3 mb. hd movie, 25 gb. Big difference there. And I also don't see people staring at a 2 inch ipod screen for 90+ minutes to watch a movie on the go. I got 2 megabit internet (note megabit, not megabyte) and even I can download a song fast, but it would take me days of non stop downloading to get a movie, compared to a 5 minute drive (most of which is sitting in traffic) to get a movie. That is why movie downloads aren't going to be going anywhere any time soon.



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