How much money is Sony losing with the PSN?

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bumidan on 30 June 2008

@mr. elite

most of the time, anything you say makes you flamebait for someone, doesn't matter what you say, pro, against or neutral.

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mr.elite on 30 June 2008

yes, your right. which is one of the reasons i like this site. Except when you prove someone wrong and they are persistent in admitting they're right.

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CrazzyMan on 30 June 2008

FishyJoe said:

CrazzyMan said:

jenny said:
Everything about the PS3 is a financial nightmare. The PS3 software is incredibly expensive to make also. Did they even profit off of games like Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, or Ratchet and Clank when you add in the super expensive costs of advertising? The PS3 is the complete opposite of the Wii.

ERTS (EA) Net Income:

2007: +$74 million

2008: -$454 million

http://finance.google.com/finance?q=erts&hl=en

That being said, the original poster is just as bad as Craazyman.

EA bought Bioware in 2008?

Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.

Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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FishyJoe on 30 June 2008

CrazzyMan said:

FishyJoe said:

CrazzyMan said:

jenny said:
Everything about the PS3 is a financial nightmare. The PS3 software is incredibly expensive to make also. Did they even profit off of games like Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, or Ratchet and Clank when you add in the super expensive costs of advertising? The PS3 is the complete opposite of the Wii.

ERTS (EA) Net Income:

2007: +$74 million

2008: -$454 million

http://finance.google.com/finance?q=erts&hl=en

That being said, the original poster is just as bad as Craazyman.

EA bought Bioware in 2008?

That wouldn't effect operating income, which has a slightly larger loss than net income.

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jenny on 30 June 2008

Who cares Crazzy man!! What does EA have to do with anything??? EA definietly cant profit off the PS3 alone and they dont even try to!

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Strategyking92 on 30 June 2008

Million said:

PIMP said:

Million said:

Well sony do sell software on PSN don't they ? which will at the very least cover the costs of PSN .

So the answer i believe is nothing.

LOL. PSN doesn't even have software and an install base comparable to XBL so I doubt they are not losing out on it. Including HOME and I bet they are losing a lot of money. Looks like MS are the smarts ones and cashing in big time and we can see the effects(timed exclusives, DLC GTA4)

Your post really doesn't deserve a response but i'm a nice person so i will anyway. Mr PIMP your not going to last long on this site , i'm guessing you'll be banned before post 30.

but he is right about this.

And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

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mr.elite on 30 June 2008

Strategyking92 said:

Million said:

PIMP said:

Million said:

Well sony do sell software on PSN don't they ? which will at the very least cover the costs of PSN .

So the answer i believe is nothing.

LOL. PSN doesn't even have software and an install base comparable to XBL so I doubt they are not losing out on it. Including HOME and I bet they are losing a lot of money. Looks like MS are the smarts ones and cashing in big time and we can see the effects(timed exclusives, DLC GTA4)

Your post really doesn't deserve a response but i'm a nice person so i will anyway. Mr PIMP your not going to last long on this site , i'm guessing you'll be banned before post 30.

but he is right about this.

Not really he isnt. First the install base, there are about 12 million live users compared to about 10 million PSN users, I'd say thats comparable. Also the software for PSN is constantly being added onto but ill give him this one that obviously live has more content, its been out 14 months longer. As for the buying of timed exclusives and the GTA 4, we are yet to see just how "smart" microsoft was for these moves. Especially the dlc for gta4.

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Coca-Cola on 30 June 2008

If Sony is not losing money then why is microsoft charging me $60 a year?
XBL should be free!!!

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mr.elite on 30 June 2008

Because Microsoft is greedy i guess. And sony could simply slate their free network as one more reason to buy PS3. Owning PS3 for 2 years is cheaper then owning 360 with gold for 2 years assuming you dont have the arcade.

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