What's with the awful vehicle handling? Its like your driving on ice - whatever vehicle you use. Slight turn and your vehicle spins wildy out of control. Why make the game too realistic? Takes the fun out of the game. The previous GTA games have always been wild and crazy. Car/bike chases feel like your racing Lewis Hamilton.

99% of the missions are all the same - drive here-> chase him -> kill him or let him live and repeat.

Taking your date out to darts, bowling, cabaret, pool, bar or a restaurant gets boring quickly. As soon as you pick your date up, and drive her to a restaurant, nothing happens, you are then asked to take her back home. Very poor.

The "side missions" where you have to pick up people for Little Jacob is repititive and dull. Who wants to drive to the other side of the map, pick someone up then drive them all the way back again?

Cut scenes are too long and boring, nothing interesting ever happens.

Rockstar have added pointless rubbish like hailing a cab, breaking into a car with your elbow/feet, drunk driving, and...er throwing bricks. Where's the fun in that?!

Plus the graphics are too dark/colorful/blurry despite using cheats to change the weather.

And it looks like you can't purchase any property, most of the buildings are just eye candy. So what good is having over 300k in your pocket if you can't purchase anything?

I'm almost 20 hours into the game - and have yet to come into any "Rampages" which made the game so fun - which have been with the every GTA game since the beginning. Remember how fun it was blowing up Triads and vehicles with the remote controlled toy car in GTA III?

Disappointed, I was expecting it to be as good as San Andreas. Instead it feels like a poor add on for GTA III, i got bored and went back to cod4!

Other than the entire gaming population? Well no

Um.... YES!!

I actually really like it still but i can see why alot of people are bored with it now.


I got used to the driving so that was fine after a while.

The cover system was good enough and much better than what was in the previous games.

The city was awesome, I remember going in a chopper for the first time and just saying "woaaah" all the time.

Online with friends was really fun, particularly the party mode and races.


I do miss buying property though. It was so fun in Vice City just feeling like you owned the place.

I didnt buy it as the earlier ones I tried ie san andreas didnt do anything for me.

I still have yet to play it. I will pick it up eventually...maybe when the price drops or when I clear off some of my backlog.

I thought it was pretty good.  Probably helps that I wasn't that hyped since MGS4 was so close.  Only things I didn't like was the lack of interesting cheats, them getting rid of some weapons, and no planes.

Pretty much everyone that played San Andreas got let down from GTAIV. San Andreas was fun, anyone remember the little toy plane you get to pilot and you could shoot people with it. That was fun. After about forty hours of playing the game (still didnt beat it) i didn't find any fun mission. You're right, its too realistic. I liked the Jet packs in San Andreas, the vast country side full of rednecks, the three cities. Its just so much they missed out in GTAIV, liked they cut everything out of San Andreas that made it fun and unique, added nice detailed graphics, downscaled the map, and voila, GTAIV. The game is not horrible, i just wished they made it better than san andreas. Like a whole state would of been fun, with small town here and there, countryside, abilities, more in depth dating, the Taxi missions, buying property. Hell i even liked the customization garage in san andreas, if they brought that back in GTAIV. Although the online pretty much makes up for it though.

i couldn't agree with u more hadj....for me GTA in general is just getting "old"...i loved GTA III the best but haven't like one since

I agree.  It was a big step back for the series.  Some features missing from GTAIV that I really cared about: Custom cars, buying property, airplanes, base-jumping, parachuting out of planes, the jetpack, the tank, an attack chopper with missiles, the attack plane, the freaking flamethrower, custom radio station (PC version of San Andreas), diverse landscapes, more weapons, incentives for exploration, military/military vehicles, taxi missions, vigilante missions, paramedic missions, firetruck missions, and the wacky humor... GTA should never take itself seriously.

But don't worry guys... there is one developer out there who still remembers what GTA is about.  Wacky, over-the-top, do whatever the hell you can think of gameplay.   Trailer:

That's exactly what GTAIV should have been.  Use the power of HD consoles to make things more over-the-top and give the player more freedom, not less.  Screw you Rockstar for killing GTA.  Oh, and Saints Row 2 is launching on 360, PS3, and PC on October 14.  I'm looking forward to it.